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nvarcher
11-03-2011, 10:11 PM
I would say it's a .300 Win. Mag. as you can shoot as low as a 110 grain bullet, and up to a 220 grain bullet with plenty of knockdown power for even an Alaskan Brown.

Montana
11-04-2011, 07:17 AM
Only down fall to the .300 Win Mag is cost of ammunition. I am a WSM fan big time, everything I own. The 270 wsm is one heck of a caliber, just a bit light for some of the larger game. So I would have to say the most versatile caliber is the 7wsm, a step down from the cannon. But just like everything else in the hunting world, from shoes, jackets, sleeping bags to guns. It's only time before you realize that one is not enough. You just about have to have a couple items for different scenarios. So pick what you want to hunt the most and go with that first. Then over the years you will want to pick up something on the other end of the spectrum.

Bitterroot Bulls
11-04-2011, 07:32 AM
When you say North America, including AK, I would say any .338 magnum.

Full Draw
11-04-2011, 07:42 AM
My vote goes to the 300 mag. You can somewhat bypass the cost by re-loading your own. Close 2nd is the 7mm. mag. great all around gun.

sjsmallfield
11-04-2011, 12:44 PM
I am all for the 300 win mag but I wouldn't hesitate to say the 30-06 it is pretty tough to beat for an all around round. The rounds are pretty cheap also and have taken everything in North America.

Colorado Cowboy
11-04-2011, 04:35 PM
I hunted with a 30-06 for lots a years and took a lot of game with it, but I am a big fan of the WBY .300 Mag. The ballistics in my handloads are wonderful, I use it on anything I hunt larger than deer. Everything else (deer, antelope, hogs, sheep), I use my 25-06. But I am sure my .300 will do a great job with lighter bullets for the smaller stuff, but why waste all that powder, my .25 gets them just as dead!

AvidHunterAbe
11-04-2011, 06:22 PM
Since I believe you can never have too much gun....Id run a 300 Remington Ultra Mag. Will knock down anything, can eaisily be built to shoo 1k yards and you can buy a Sendero, float it, nice trigger and it will shoot a loooooong ways!

Pronghorn73
11-04-2011, 07:35 PM
Colorado Cowboy, Hey whats a good hand load for the .300 Wby. mag for elk? I just picked one up this year and so far I love it! I too have used a 30-06 for many years and it has served me well.

Bitterroot Bulls
11-04-2011, 07:40 PM
I always ran a 200 gr. Accubond over RL25 in my 300 Wby. I don't remember the exact load, but it was right at max. It was an excellent combo, and I killed my biggest bull with it.

I am also interested in what loads Colorado Cowboy runs.

Colorado Cowboy
11-04-2011, 08:58 PM
Colorada Cowboy, Hey whats a good hand load for the .300 Wby. mag for elk? I just picked one up this year and so far I love it! I too have used a 30-06 for many years and it has served me well.

I use 180 gr. Nosler Partition, Reloader 25 powder and magnum primers. My rifle ( a custom commercial mauser, B & C comp stock, Shilen SS match bbl) likes 86.5 grs. Sierra Game King 180 BT also shoot well, but the partitions group slightly better. Both do sub minuite groups out to 500 yds. Rifle is topped with a Leupold VXIII 4 x 14 40mm with a custom ballistic turret from Leupold matched to my load.
I plan on working up a 150 gr. load in case I ever get a sheep tag.

7mmsendero
11-05-2011, 05:12 AM
I've used a 7mm Wby Mag and a 7mm Rem Mag, both are really good. I've made 5 consecutive one shot kills with the 7mm Rem mag. I switched to the sendero barrell in 2006, the accuracy is just too much too ignore. Plus, if you are ever in a bind, it would be much easier to find a box of 7mm Rem Mag ammo.

As far as the .300 Mags are concerned, great guns no doubt. However, I've shot and hunted with a .300 Wby Mag, the extra kick is pretty obvious. If you are a big dude, then it isn't as much a factor. However, for lighter folks, it can rock you pretty good. I think it can have an impact on accuracy. I've never noticed the recoil from the 7mm's.

Colorado Cowboy
11-05-2011, 06:19 AM
Not with a good muzzlebreak! My .300 Wby doesn't kick as much as my .25-06. Pretty noisy, but recoil is real low.

JNDEER
11-05-2011, 02:30 PM
a 7mm Rem Mag, both are really good. Plus, if you are ever in a bind, it would be much easier to find a box of 7mm Rem Mag ammo.



Love my 7mm

Booner
11-05-2011, 05:13 PM
I guess if I was going to own just one rifle, I would have a 7mm rem. mag.

Pronghorn73
11-06-2011, 07:02 AM
Thanks, Colorado Cowboy and Bitterroot Bulls. I will see what I can work up for my .300 Wby. As far as recoil, I am impressed at how mild it is, I was expecting alot more. I have only shot Wby 180 gr. factory loads so far but what a smooth shooter! My 30-06 is a Win. model 70 featherweight and it kicks more.

Bitterroot Bulls
11-06-2011, 08:10 AM
Thanks, Colorado Cowboy and Bitterroot Bulls. I will see what I can work up for my .300 Wby. As far as recoil, I am impressed at how mild it is, I was expecting alot more. I have only shot Wby 180 gr. factory loads so far but what a smooth shooter! My 30-06 is a Win. model 70 featherweight and it kicks more.

Most Weatherby rifles in 300 Wby. are a little bit heavier guns. A heavy gun tames recoil pretty nicely. My Remington Sendero 300 RUM is a pussycat to shoot.

It seems like Weatherby rifles with their monte carlo stocks also make recoil a little easier to take for a lot of people.

You should post your handloading results!

Elkoholic307
11-06-2011, 09:59 AM
In my opinion, the most versatile would be the 338 Win.

MOHunter
11-06-2011, 01:21 PM
I have a 7 Mag and am perfectly happy with it. However, if you're talking most versatile I would have to say one of the .30 calibers - probably 300 Win. Especially if you're a reloader, the range of bullets available is just much greater than a 7mm.

I just don't anticipate hunting anything that would call for more than my 7 Mag - at least any time soon. If that time does come I'll have an excuse to get another rifle!

6mm Remington
11-06-2011, 02:35 PM
30-06 with either a 180 gr. Partition or Accubond. Possibly a 300 WSM with same bullets. My picks anyway.

anglinarcher
11-07-2011, 01:13 PM
My vote is for the 30.06 or the 7mm.

I've got a 270win and a 300win mag. Not being a big feller the 300 kicks a bit much for myself, and the 270 is a great gun. With a Barnes brass 150 gr tip it's enough medicine for elk or moose but that's as high as she would go IMO.

enysse
11-08-2011, 01:15 PM
I will have to vote for the 300 Win Mag. I have a 7mm mag I really love too. But if I was hunting something like grizzly I'd move up to my 338 Win....though I have no doubt my 300 Win Mag would be adquate. I have nothing against the 270 Win and 243 Win, I have killed a lot of game with them, it's just that they don't handle wind deflection well.

Drhorsepower
11-08-2011, 01:49 PM
Well since everybody else put in there two cents, here's mine:

The best caliber is the one you are comfortable with. The one that puts the bullet exactly where you want it!

My comfortable caliber happens to be the 7mm. Rem. mag. The reason I chose this is I believe 300 win or short is way overkill on alot of game that I hunt or plan on hunting. I wouldn't want to kill and antelope with one. I want to eat it when I'm through. I would not be emberassed or underpowered shooting a moose with my weapon because I am going to put a well placed bullet where I want to or I'm not going to pull the trigger. I think these big calibers are a compensating mechanism for lack of practice with their equipment. If I was just hunting mule deer and antelope, I would go with 6mm rem. or possibly 25-06. I hope I dont offend anybody and that is not near my intention, but that is my opinion. Also bullets have a better bc with a 7mm :)

Like the 300, I believe the 7mm offers the same amount versatility as far as bullet weight goes, or should I say a bullet for any animal. What I mean is you can choose a bullet to hunt antelope and to hunt moose.

My uncle owns a 300 wsm and his load is like 95 gr.powder!!! Holy Mackel Andy! That's alot of powder!!!

Jon Boy
11-08-2011, 07:12 PM
I really dont think theres one caliber that would fit the bill if you plan on hunting big bears. If you dont plan on pursuing them then a 30/06, 7 mag, 300 mag etc would all work fine. If you wanted to pursue the big bear a 338 win on up.

Elkoholic307
11-09-2011, 07:34 AM
The reason I chose this is I believe 300 win or short is way overkill on alot of game that I hunt or plan on hunting. I wouldn't want to kill and antelope with one. I want to eat it when I'm through.

That's a common myth. Choosing the right bullet has a lot to do with it.The first photo is a fox I shot with my 300 win. at 70 yards while deer hunting. As you can see, the pelt is in perfect shape. I was using Barnes (180 gr TTSX); if I were using Bergers, the fox would probably have been cut in half. I don't find this particular load (or any for that matter), overkill whatsoever for deer or antelope.

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t70/tj_vanderploeg/fox.jpg

This fox was shot with a 105 gr Berger from a 6mm, also around 70 yards. I only showed the 'pretty side' for the camera, so you'll have to trust me when I tell you that it left a giant, ugly and un-stitchable hole. It of course, would not do that to antelope. But, you can see how important bullet selection is.

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t70/tj_vanderploeg/fox2.jpg

Colorado Cowboy
11-09-2011, 08:55 AM
I agree with those of you that are of the opinion that "1" just won't cut it. Thats why I shoot my .300 WBY on the big stuff (elk, etc) and my 25-06 on Deer and smaller. They both have served me well over the years. Shot over 50 deer & antelope with my 25 and have shot 15 or so elk, 2 moose and a couple of deer with my .300. Both are great calibers and at my age I don't plan on making any changes.

Elkoholic307
11-09-2011, 10:16 PM
I think most people here hunt with more than just one rifle. But, that's not what this thread is about. You're supposed to pick the one, most versatile caliber capable of any game in North America. I don't even own a 338 win. but that's what I chose.

Colorado Cowboy
11-10-2011, 07:24 AM
Hard for me to pick something I've never shot and don't have any experience with!!!

Elkoholic307
11-10-2011, 07:16 PM
You don't necessarily need to.

xtreme
07-24-2012, 11:12 AM
I have never shot anything larger than 7mm. Bullet and bullet placement are the key. I shoot Berger but I know what they do and they do exactly as advertised. Thats what Elkoholic proved with the two foxes. If I were shooting grizzley with the 7mm, I would use partition or maybe Rem Core-Lokt.
The more I learn about shooting the better the 7mm looks, cause we have to content with recoil and wind. I agree that two guns work best and the ballistics of the 25-06 and 243wssm are the same, the 06 would have an advantage due to the diameter of the bullet. I shoot the 243wssm with 55gr silvertip and deer with 95gr.
I will use Berger in 7mm for my trophy mule deer hunt. Those 168 Bergers are going more than 3000fps 15ft from the muzzle and are less than moa at 600yds. I want the deer to stop and I won't be shooting into a cape area. My two cents worth

HuskyMusky
07-24-2012, 12:07 PM
Most versatile? .280 Rem

While sure you can hunt all over NA with the .375H&H, would you really want to constantly be shooting the 375 on deer/antelope when 90% of your hunting is deer?

I say figure out what 90% of your hunting is, if the 270 is ideal for that 90% use that as ideal, then when you go elk, brown bear hunting pick up that 338 or 375.

Drhorsepower
07-24-2012, 12:09 PM
Here we go again...

HuntWYODon
07-24-2012, 12:26 PM
Here we go again...
LMAO ! Heck, I never chimed in. I like my Rem 300 Ultra Mag with 180 gr. Barnes Tipped Triple Shoks. 100.0 grs. Hogdons Retumbo.My chono's say 3360 fps. 150 grs. 3630 fs. Kills everything dead on spot when i do my part. I wont tell the size of my groups because you'd say BS. I wouldn't say the most versatile though. Maybe a 30:06 ???
The ultimate question huh ?