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CrimsonArrow
01-30-2012, 08:47 PM
I'm thinking about purchasing an AR type weapon, and am leaning towards something in .223. Other than that, I have no clue as to which make/model I should look at. It would be used for some varmint hunting, but mostly just to have around. Any input? Thanks.

buckbull
01-30-2012, 09:04 PM
I know alot of guys think highly of the Rock River Arms. I personally have an Olympic Arms and I'm very satisfied with it.

Bitterroot Bulls
01-30-2012, 09:13 PM
Just about all of the major makers are putting out a good product. The good, reasonably priced makes are Rock River Arms, Bushmaster, and DPMS. I have used all three and they will all do the job reliably.

Tenmilestyle
01-30-2012, 09:36 PM
It is unreal how many companies make Ar's or components anymore,it is easy to get overwelmed. I have had guns from colt,olympic,bushmaster. Shot some from DPMS,Smith&wesson,Rock river and some others. The only one i would not recomend is the colt. The best bet when buying one is to stick with the big makers IMO like bushmaster or DPMS. Like buck said above everyone loves the RR and they are a good gun with tight tolerences. As far as varmit guns go i have a factory bushmaster special varmiter. This is the most accurate AR i have owned. With good handloads it will easily shot 1/2 moa or less. I have taken ground squirles at 450 yards on the regular with this gun.

T43
01-31-2012, 09:12 AM
I have to go the other way. We have run a ton of rounds through our Colts with no issues but I have seen several problems with Bushmasters over the years. I also have an Olympic 12" that runs well and so far the S&W and Rock Rivers haven't had any major issues.

Bitterroot Bulls
01-31-2012, 10:00 AM
I have to go the other way. We have run a ton of rounds through our Colts with no issues but I have seen several problems with Bushmasters over the years. I also have an Olympic 12" that runs well and so far the S&W and Rock Rivers haven't had any major issues.

i agree about the Colts: haven't had any issues with them, but they are quite a bit more expensive. Bushys have been fine for me. I forgot to mention S&W. Some of the first couple year's production runs were hit-and-miss, but the modern S&W ARs have been really good.

Bobby Swaggs
01-31-2012, 11:46 AM
I have had my Stag Arms AR for 4 years now and it has been 100% reliable. I bought it because it was a little cheaper than the other manufacturers and being just out of college money was tight. They have a lifetime warranty and offer every model in both right and left handed versions.

Ikeepitcold
01-31-2012, 12:00 PM
Bushmaster is my favorite. I also use it for coyotes in .223

bigshot
02-02-2012, 10:18 PM
I have the new Colt model 6940, with the one piece upper and love it. I mounted a Leupold VXIII 2.5x8.... and shoot five shot one inch groups with factory Winchester ammo at 100 yards.

wolftalonID
02-11-2012, 11:15 AM
I bought a S&W M&P in 556. I love it. I bought the MagPul Edition with the desert tan accessories. I also own a rifle in 223. I shoot only 223 ammo through both, and so far my AR is the rifle I lean to on most outings.
One thing I did notice is its sooooo easy to get carried away on buying toys for these buggers!!!

SDbowhunter
03-03-2012, 08:37 PM
I have a RRA that I have had for several years now and it works well, I do think you have to play around with different ammo to see what they like to shot the best. My RR will shoot good black hills and hornady well, but when I run cheaper ammo through it the accuracy is very sub par, I also purchased mine before they got their gov't contract and I have heard through various sources that since then the quality has diminished some. I have shot a bushmaster, and a colt and several DPMS'. I'm gonna say that ultimately its up the the puchaser what AR you want and YES there is a ton of stuff you can put on them if you want. As soon as I get the funds I'm gonna upgrade to a LaRue Tactical, my opinion is that they have a lot of good stuff going for them, and for only $400 more than what my RRA was. I have also read a lot of good reviews on Noveski's.

CrimsonArrow
03-03-2012, 10:48 PM
I kept it simple and bought the DPMS Oracle in 5.56. Put a Cabelas Alpha series scope 3-12x40 with EXT reticle. Have only shot at 100 yards so far, but grouping with Hornady ammo was in the 1" bullseye. The trigger pull is long and rough, but I knew that going into it, but otherwise, am liking the gun. I'm already thinking about getting another one in .308.

Edelweiss
03-14-2012, 02:11 AM
There is a company in Kalispel Montana that makes an AR. I'd probably buy one of their receivers and build my own or buy built gun from Larue if you have the cash.

Larue are pretty highly thought of.

When I am back stateside I am going to look at doing this. I think Larue will sell you a matched upper and lower now, where they wouldn't before.

I am sorry I can't remember the name of the AR outfit in Kalispel. Midwayusa has their stuff for sale.

I am just learning this AR thing, have been shooting bolt guns since I was 6.

You can really build some nice weapons on the AR system. Especially things like a 6.5 Creedmoor or 204 Ruger. Heck I'd hunt elk with a AR-308 in 338 Federal or 308, even at long range.

Drhorsepower
03-14-2012, 02:37 AM
Does anybody have experience with palmetto state armory? I got the go ahead from the wife to buy one and have been looking heavily! 900$ limit.

Edelweiss
03-14-2012, 05:16 AM
Drhorsepower,

Do you have a Dicks Sporting Goods near you? A friend was able to buy a Remington/DPMS in 223 for $650 on close out, and the same rifle in 308 for $950. Quite a savings.

Drhorsepower
03-15-2012, 01:09 AM
Unfortunately we do not. A friend of mine suggested bcm, noveske, Daniel defense, lmt, and colt.
Any other suggestions. I want something that is super reliable.

Edelweiss
03-15-2012, 04:04 AM
I would join the AR15 forums, and then you can look up what people report about reliability.

Most are Mil-Spec AR15's and should be fine. MILSPEC doesn't necessarily mean better, just means it fits to a certain standard.

Any of the ones you spoke of should be fine. I have used mostly Colt, Armalite, and FN in the military. FN would be the tops but not by much, my last issue rifle was a HK.

Drhorsepower
03-18-2012, 12:53 AM
Thanks. I went with a bcm ( bravo company manufacturing) should be here in 3-5 weeks! I wet with a 16" mid length gun!

Drhorsepower
03-19-2012, 11:59 PM
What's everybody running for optics? Tactical not hunting. Thanks.

Drhorsepower
03-30-2012, 02:27 PM
My first ar!
Finally came in.
Bcm 16" midlength
Vltor stock.
I put 100 rounds through it yesterday, I'm hooked. If weather would have cooperated and I had not been in land of liberals(ca, 10 rd mag cap)

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/chevypoweredracer/de27484d.jpg

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/chevypoweredracer/f3c96280.jpg


Looking for optic now. Any suggestions?

In God We Trust
03-30-2012, 03:20 PM
I bought a Stag 2T a couple of weeks ago with the quad rail. I love it. I researched reviews for months before I bought it. As far as sights it depends on your price range. If you want to spend 500 or more look at Acogg or Eotech. I am saving up for an Acogg so I ordered a Vortex Strikefire red dot to hold me over for now. I have seen a lot of good reviews on them and they run 150-160 bucks. If you go with the Vortex order the red dot not red/ green. Everyone says the option with just red is a lot brighter and easier to see on bright sunny days.

Drhorsepower
03-30-2012, 03:53 PM
I bought a Stag 2T a couple of weeks ago with the quad rail. I love it. I researched reviews for months before I bought it. As far as sights it depends on your price range. If you want to spend 500 or more look at Acogg or Eotech. I am saving up for an Acogg so I ordered a Vortex Strikefire red dot to hold me over for now. I have seen a lot of good reviews on them and they run 150-160 bucks. If you go with the Vortex order the red dot not red/ green. Everyone says the option with just red is a lot brighter and easier to see on bright sunny days.

Thanks igwt
I'm really looking at the aimpoint pro. Ie been reading tons of reviews online, and lookin at other models.

Come on bb, I know you have an opinion. Quit holding out one me!

Bitterroot Bulls
03-30-2012, 04:08 PM
Come on bb, I know you have an opinion. Quit holding out one me!

Haha, sorry Dr.H.

For the parallax free 1x CQC optic, I like the Aimpoint Micro and Eotech.

Acogs are nice too, but I really prefer the Micro.

For a do-all optic a well designed 1-4 or 1-6 FFP reticle scope is the way to go:

http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-MRAD-Scopes-C4225.aspx

http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-MRAD-Scopes-C4225.aspx

If you go this route, get the cattail for the magnification adjustment to get quickly from 1x to top end and back.

This type of scope is the way AR optics are going. At the low end it is like a red dot. At the high end, it is a nice magnified scope. Best of both worlds, and the only price to pay is size and weight.

Drhorsepower
04-09-2012, 01:29 AM
THanks bb. Swfa is sure proud of their stuff! I went with an aimpoint comp m4. Not like your opinion doesn't matter, I felt it was the best choice for my application and intended use. 8 year battery life is also a plus.

Here are a few pics, I aim to take better quality photos when it is complete, I am going to put sling attachments and vert fore grip.

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/chevypoweredracer/f295b3bc.jpg

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/chevypoweredracer/5323a32a.jpg

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/chevypoweredracer/165e15b9.jpg

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/chevypoweredracer/ba7566f4.jpg

Edelweiss
04-09-2012, 07:03 AM
Don't put a vert fore grip on it, tacticool is tactigay.

Drhorsepower
04-09-2012, 11:30 PM
Don't put a vert fore grip on it, tacticool is tactigay.

Yes and no, I think they have their place if used right, a good friend of mine who is an instructor and has taken many high name classes is kinda mentoring me on this whole crusade. If used properly and it isn't to grip like your choking a chicken, rather roll your thumb over the top of your barrel and only the your pinky and ring finger are actually making contact, then I think it is a good tool. I have shot them with, without and afg's, I prefer the stubby grip, also provides a solid anchor point to grip the weapon the same every time.

Edelweiss
04-10-2012, 01:43 AM
I have carried a M16 then M4 Professionally since 1993, my govvie issue is set up with the folllowing.

Magpul fore end, A-2 buttstock, Aimpoint 9000 in Spurh mount. Beyond that it's a pretty much stock FN Contract Govvie M4. Been a firearms instructor since 1998 in the military. The only reason I spurged on the mount is I was the unit armorer and didn't have to worry about turning it in at night and having all my expensive upgrades stole off of it.

I used to teach that it was a good way to do nothing productive with your 2nd hand. Mostly I teach "cup the mag well" with the bottom of your hand. Personal ergonomics are everything though. Everyone is built different, glad most folks have M4 style stocks with the adjustability.

Right now I am in a different kind of outfit (aircraft stuff), and we only have Rem 870 Shotguns and our SIG M11 pistols.