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Matthoek21
03-03-2012, 08:00 AM
I have 6 archery points right now as a non-resident. I have been studying these units for some time, but am
wondering if anyone can give me their personal thoughts on which unit I should apply for. Anyone who may have hunted both or at least knows a little bit about one or the other. I have never hunted mule deer so this will be the first
time. I have hunted elk for several years in various units. I want a bivouac style backcountry hunt if possible. Is there remote country in either one of these units? Any tidbits or just hiking knowledge of either unit would be nice just to get a gauge of which unit I should try for. Thx

Graylight
03-03-2012, 11:27 AM
Both units you are speaking are not bivy or backpack hunts... Both are thick and cannot be glassed very well. If you like wide open country, you will be dissappointed. On the other hand, there are good numbers of mature deer in both units, however, if memory serves me right, I believe the DOW starts the elk hunt in 61 during the archery as well. Which stirs everything up pretty good, as there is no elevation difference where the animals concentrate because the country is mostly quakies and oak brush. 21 has lot's of private chunks... There's ton's of hunters working the public that is available... I hope this helps...

Matthoek21
03-03-2012, 01:47 PM
That's kind of what I thought. It appeared to not have much remote country for my style of hunting. What would be the best way to hunt either unit? I was definitely interested in some spot and stalk type of country but your saying it is thick and not really that type of hunt?? Should I be looking at a different unit? Just been trying to build points for the best unit to shoot a decent buck with good archery harvest success. Now maybe I should reconsider.

Graylight
03-03-2012, 05:44 PM
Honestly almost every unit on the West slope will have decent bucks... Most have Good bucks. You have the chance to do a little spot n stalk in 21 but it is pretty limited because of the oak brush being way over your head... One minute you see something, then next you see nothing! Very frustrating for my hunting style... Like most people here, i don't think anyone will hand out a unit to go hunt but there are many places to look, maybe check out the high country above 12,000 ft. if you want to spot n stalk.

BOHNTR
03-03-2012, 06:46 PM
Some of the best archery bucks each year come from unit 61........I've seen some giants in the transition zones between aspens and oak brush. Some of the best genetics in the state come from that plateau. When I hunted it, I was able to still-hunt and spot and stalk. It's doable.....just not an above timberline type hunt.

CoHiCntry
03-09-2012, 12:52 PM
I have 6 archery points right now as a non-resident. I have been studying these units for some time, but am
wondering if anyone can give me their personal thoughts on which unit I should apply for. Anyone who may have hunted both or at least knows a little bit about one or the other. I have never hunted mule deer so this will be the first
time. I have hunted elk for several years in various units. I want a bivouac style backcountry hunt if possible. Is there remote country in either one of these units? Any tidbits or just hiking knowledge of either unit would be nice just to get a gauge of which unit I should try for. Thx

If you decide on unit 61 let me know. I may be mule deer hunting there this year. A friend should have enough points for a muzzy tag and I have enough for archery. He has way more points than me so he might decide on a rifle tag in a different unit instead?

Matthoek21
03-13-2012, 01:00 PM
Thanks CoHiCntry. I am definitly leaning towards giving 61 a shot. Just wish I knew what to expect. I guess that is the dilemna when you live this far away. I have 6pts and my buddy has 5pts. We may not get drawn but I am starting to research just in case. I was really hoping one could get into some remote ares in this unit but I guess not. Either way if it is good with lots of good bucks I will just have to get in there and get after it. At least it is a draw unit so maybe between elk and deer hunters there is still plenty of room without too many people encounters. Who knows maybe that helps to. Have you hunted here before? I will definitly give you a heads up if we draw. Thx

CoHiCntry
03-13-2012, 01:54 PM
Thanks CoHiCntry. I am definitly leaning towards giving 61 a shot. Just wish I knew what to expect. I guess that is the dilemna when you live this far away. I have 6pts and my buddy has 5pts. We may not get drawn but I am starting to research just in case. I was really hoping one could get into some remote ares in this unit but I guess not. Either way if it is good with lots of good bucks I will just have to get in there and get after it. At least it is a draw unit so maybe between elk and deer hunters there is still plenty of room without too many people encounters. Who knows maybe that helps to. Have you hunted here before? I will definitly give you a heads up if we draw. Thx

Yes, I've hunted on the plateau a lot. You won't have to deal with to much crowding in 61 since the tags are limited. PM me sometime if you want.

Colorado Cowboy
03-13-2012, 02:00 PM
Get some topo maps/Uncompahgre Nat. Forest map. I am looking at the NF map now. I spend a lot of time near there in the summer fishing. There are lots of roads throught the unit. Most of the private property is in the SW part. There are also a lot of PP areas in the middle, but in guessing 10 % or so. I am sure there are a lot of fences in the unit because of the grazing leases. Expect to see livestock. I don't recall any elevations that are above timberline.Call the FS @ the Norwood Office, (303) 327-4261. That is the closest.

Matthoek21
03-13-2012, 08:37 PM
Thanks Colorado Cowboy. I will give them a call. CoHiCntry I will PM you sometime just to get an overview. I appreciate your help.

Zim
03-15-2012, 05:38 PM
Dang, at 5 I am have been chasing both these units and getting banged by the point creep. Thinking of just doing a unit 30 2nd season rifle instead.

Matthoek21
03-15-2012, 09:37 PM
I feel your pain Zim. It seems to always be just out of reach. Every year I think I have enough. Seems we used to be neighbors. I lived in Grande Park(neighborhood) Plainfield for 3 years. Had to get back south. Definitely glad to get back home.

Zim
03-16-2012, 08:55 AM
I feel your pain Zim. It seems to always be just out of reach. Every year I think I have enough. Seems we used to be neighbors. I lived in Grande Park(neighborhood) Plainfield for 3 years. Had to get back south. Definitely glad to get back home.

Haha, My 2011 New Mexico bull is in Plainfield right now, at my taxidermist. Are you going to join the army of Georgia bowhunters who migrate to JEPC every November? I can't pull in one lot there without seeing a peach license plate.

Ya there's no value to building up more than 5 or 6 deer points in CO because the quality is spread out. Wish I had some other state draw results before picking. If I had only 1 point I'd apply for a high country archery hunt. That is what I want to start doing after I burn these. I think I'll go for the 30 rifle. Should get it.

ronarnold
03-20-2012, 10:51 AM
Personally I wouldn't waste my points on unit 61.I live around Montrose and know unit 61&62 very well,since they both are in my back yard.I've seen bigger bucks in 62 and you don't need very many points.Unit 21 is producing some stud bucks now,but be sure to watch out for private property,and can be a little rougher terrain to hunt.Unit 44 is also a sleeper again.High country hunts during archery and muzzle are the way to go,but can be physically harder do to altitude. Almost all the high country units in sw co are great and don't require a ton of points. Allow yourself a couple days to acclimate
to higher elevations,9000ft plus.

Matthoek21
03-21-2012, 10:54 PM
Thanks Ron. I talked with the Game Warden today about 61. He also said the quality was not that great in 61. This will be my first ever mule deer hunt and I am looking for good quality and decent numbers. My biggest whitetail is low 160's and I would like to shoot something at least that size...although when Bowhunting I know you can't always be picky. 21 is definitely on the radar as well as 66 and 70. My dilemma is I have 6 pts and obviously hate to burn that many on a 2-3 pt unit. 21 is suppose to have high success but doesn't sound like the style I'm looking for. I would prefer to be able to bivouac at least 3-4 miles back into a secluded area. I was told 21 has a lot of roads due to all the oil wells. Does anyone else have any feelings on 21, 66, or 70? Tick tock the clock is ticking. I am gonna have to make a decision real soon. Can anyone make this any harder??

xtreme
03-22-2012, 10:02 AM
Have you looked at unit 63? Unit 66 has a low archery kill percentage, why I dont know. One of the game wardens checked a 236 last year in a unit I had considered for rifle, just saying like people before me, there are good deer in most units. Look at the MRS for archery this year if you havent already. The tip sheets are not posted, if you want one call CDW and ask for an email of the unit you are considering.
I did learn that during archery season the Continental Divide over flights see some gaints.

ronarnold
03-24-2012, 09:01 PM
Thanks Ron. I talked with the Game Warden today about 61. He also said the quality was not that great in 61. This will be my first ever mule deer hunt and I am looking for good quality and decent numbers. My biggest whitetail is low 160's and I would like to shoot something at least that size...although when Bowhunting I know you can't always be picky. 21 is definitely on the radar as well as 66 and 70. My dilemma is I have 6 pts and obviously hate to burn that many on a 2-3 pt unit. 21 is suppose to have high success but doesn't sound like the style I'm looking for. I would prefer to be able to bivouac at least 3-4 miles back into a secluded area. I was told 21 has a lot of roads due to all the oil wells. Does anyone else have any feelings on 21, 66, or 70? Tick tock the clock is ticking. I am gonna have to make a decision real soon. Can anyone make this any harder??

I don't think you can go wrong by choosing unit 70, I'm not convienced units 66 & 67 have recovered from the winter 0f '07.I travel through these units all the time ,ice fishing and coyote hunting, and I'm not seeing the mature bucks anywhere near the numbers they should be. I think 160+ bucks, if conditions are right, should be fairly easy to accomplish.Plus there is some awesome country.Go with 70.

durangodoc
09-11-2012, 01:17 PM
21 is suppose to have high success but doesn't sound like the style I'm looking for. I would prefer to be able to bivouac at least 3-4 miles back into a secluded area. I was told 21 has a lot of roads due to all the oil wells. Does anyone else have any feelings on 21, 66, or 70? Tick tock the clock is ticking. I am gonna have to make a decision real soon. Can anyone make this any harder??

Ya, you're right. 21 is not the hunt for you if you want to pretend you're Cameron Hanes. I just hunted it this year and the unit is packed with hunters and roads.