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ontarget7
03-16-2012, 08:04 AM
Mathews Helim

I took this bow on trade and it came with 60X strings on it. I have handled a few of them already but I will start from scratch like I haven't. The first thing I noticed was the very much improved overall balance and feel. The lighter weight as well was a noticeable difference which I personally liked for a hunting bow.

I had to switch cams and pick up a 29" cam to get started setting it up for me. The Mathews cams are very easy to swap out and that was done in a matter of a few minutes. After that it was on to the draw board to check what actual draw length measured. With the original draw stop it came in at 3/8" long at 29 3/8" with changing to the smaller draw stop it came in at 29 5/8" so you will gain a 1/4" in actual measured draw length. My peak weight obviously maintains the same at 68# regardless of draw stop but my holding weight and valley do change. With original draw stop my holding weight is 16.5# and with the smaller draw stops it comes in at 15.8#. However not much change but noticeable at full draw and does improve the valley.

Currently my ATA is right on at 30" and brace is at 6 15/16. The limbs are bottomed out at 68# but keep in mind I am not worried per say on 70# and would get it easy from a little twisting here and there. My current arrow is a GT Velocity 300 weighing in at 378 gr. My first set up originally was 1/8" nock high and did this because many I have seen have come in like this. I eyeballed centershot and shot through paper. I had a tail high tear but dead center for centershot. I then shot through the chrono and speeds were 303 fps. Then I set my nock height to nock level to correct tail high tear and first shot was a bullet hole. Reshot through the chrono and got 305 fps. From there I went on to fine tune my centershot with a walkback tune. Centershot ended up at just a smidgen past which is just a touch off true center due to a stiffer spine arrow. I will end up weakening the spine a little in the near future. I also ended up sliding the speed nocks up to 1 from bottom cam to bottom of speed nocks. Shot final numbers through the chrono with same arrows and shot 306 and 307 fps. So this bow is definitely hitting IBO speeds and you can see the difference just from adjustments in a basic tune.
So far it has been very repeatable on a 5 spot at 20 yards and still waiting to shoot some long range groups. Its been a little tough with the wind lately to really get dialed in. Hopefully I will be doing this shortly.
If I was to pick one complaint it would be the grip. However they are better than they have been in the past I still would like to see them slimmer in the future. Keep you posted on some more tuning and long range groups soon. Any questions just ask
Shane

HuntinFool
03-16-2012, 12:13 PM
It seems like a sweet bow, the only negative that i've heard is that the risers are easy to bend if pressed incorrectly.

ontarget7
03-16-2012, 01:21 PM
It seems like a sweet bow, the only negative that i've heard is that the risers are easy to bend if pressed incorrectly.

To be honest any riser if not pressed correctly will bend easy. I have measured the deflection in this riser while in a press and found maybe 1/16 of an inch if that. I took measurement at different points on the riser during the pressing process because I was hearing this as well. It proved to not be an issue so I feel this was just from people that quite frankly did not know what they were doing and you know how the internet is. There is lots of good info but then there is lots of false as well.

ontarget7
03-17-2012, 07:14 PM
Guys weather has just been horrible for making a sight tape so I can shoot some distance. I managed to shoot 60 yards in 20 to 30 mph winds today to just get a rough in for my sight tape. I was sorta pushed for time because we had a indoor 3D shoot that was put on today as well. The farthest targets being 50 yards so I needed to get this done.

Well went to the shoot with the Helim and was very impressed for the first time shooting past 20 yards. We had a total of 360 possible points and I shot a 354. I have a feeling this short ATA bow is going to be one heck of a shooter. Really like the draw cycle and hold at full draw. Another thing I noticed for those pack in hunts, it sits perfect over the shoulder and feels very well balanced in your hand.

I took off the B Stinger stab and went with the SS1 and so far I really like the way it balances the Helim. I am even starting to like the grip LOL

ontarget7
03-18-2012, 07:44 AM
I will be ordering an SS1 in lost camo with a yellow rod on Monday but here is a pic for now

gator7275
03-18-2012, 08:10 AM
thanks for all the great info your assesment of the bow is very detailed .

ontarget7
03-19-2012, 04:22 PM
thanks for all the great info your assesment of the bow is very detailed .

Your welcome bro

Definitely a bow worth looking at if your in the market for a new one. I will try and do an updated review when the weather gets better. So guys if you have anything you want me to cover just hauler

Shane

snoman
09-12-2012, 06:38 AM
I shot a High Country Safari for 20+ years. It has been a very good bow. I recently test-fired the Heli-m. Off the shelf it shot quite well. After a slight adjustment to the sights, it shot 5 arrows in a 3 inch group , in the bullseye, at 20 yds. Very little recoil, light weight, very quiet (compared to my Safari). I thought the price for the bow was okay. The matching quiver was steep ($105). Can't wait to shoot it from over 20 yd to see what it will do.

Shaun
09-12-2012, 10:25 AM
I am currently shooting the Z7 but my boss picked up the Helium before our trip to Arizona back in January and he loves it. Another great Matthews product for sure

jenbickel
09-12-2012, 10:45 AM
I want a Helim so bad... But my t-Rex arms don't allow me.. The shortest draw it comes in is a 26" and I'm a 25".

DaveZ
09-12-2012, 01:14 PM
I want a Helim so bad... But my t-Rex arms don't allow me.. .

LMAO


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofVgt-5VXnU

jenbickel
09-12-2012, 01:53 PM
LMAO! That was a good one!! It had me laughing for a while!

Shaun
09-12-2012, 02:44 PM
LMAO


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofVgt-5VXnU

Priceless!!! Haha

sjsmallfield
09-13-2012, 03:45 PM
Hahahahahaha!