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Drhorsepower
04-29-2012, 05:47 PM
So I got this killer deal on some frogg toggs light weight rain jacket and pants. It was advertised as reflective wear, I saw the reflective accents in the store and thought I can do something to get rid of it, when I get them home I noticed there is reflective stuff sewn in fabric that I did not see before. It's not really noticeable but it might be to the old Wiley buck/bull. What do you guys think? What should I do with them if it is going to be a problem? Reflective material just reflects uv right? If so that's no Bueno.

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Old Hunter
04-29-2012, 05:55 PM
Try a black light on it. That's how a deer will see it.

Ikeepitcold
04-29-2012, 09:48 PM
Dr I had a set of similar. Seemed kinda loud to me expescially when the rain was hitting it. Just another thought. Maybe return it and start over if the black lite shows the reflective areas. I had mine about 3 years ago maybe they changed it not to sure.

Drhorsepower
04-29-2012, 09:51 PM
Thanks guys, I'm asking the neighborhood kids if they have a black light. Hoping for the best, expecting the worst

BKC
04-29-2012, 09:54 PM
I would not wear them because of the reflective stripe. I know in certain areas where there are large amounts of deer and elk crossing hiways, they use reflectors to scare the animals back away from the roadside. I know the light source is a headlight but it would seem to me that any light source ( full moon, flashlight, etc.) would do the same.

packer58
04-29-2012, 10:07 PM
Dr, I have a few tournament buddies that own the Frog-Togg rain gear, it is pretty noisy and the material never seems to soften up. The reflective issue aside, you'll probably not like them in the field due to the noise factor.

Old Hunter
04-30-2012, 08:36 AM
Since I brought up the black light. Everybody should have one to check all your hunting clothing. UV brighteners are a big problem with clothing. You need to use a sport wash and a UV killer on your clothing, or you'll look like a bright blue neon light to deer and elk.

Especially on blaze orange vest/hats. They're loaded with brighteners. Camo will do you no good at all if you're glowing.

BKC
04-30-2012, 09:05 AM
OH, I agree with you on the black light. You would be surprised how much your clothing reflects. They say that game can't see colors and only see in black and white. When they see black and a "very bright reflective white" at first and last light it is game over!

Old Hunter
04-30-2012, 09:44 AM
OH, I agree with you on the black light. You would be surprised how much your clothing reflects. They say that game can't see colors and only see in black and white. When they see black and a "very bright reflective white" at first and last light it is game over!


As a still hunter i've researched what deer/elk can see. It does me no good to be sneaky if I look unnatural to game.

From all i've read they can see yellow and blue. They see all natural colors as a pale yellow. They don't see red and green. It looks like pale yellow to them. Just like the foliage. That's why the old red/green/black wool clothing worked so good. Still does. All the camo made doesn't work any better. Camo was made by the military to fool humans. Not animals. You don't need to look like a bush to animals. You just need to be the same color, and have your outline broken up. They do see blue though. That's why wearing jeans is not a good idea. Animals are only used to see blue as the sky. Not the legs of a predator. Since blaze orange is in the red family. They see as a pale yellow like everything else. It blends right in.

Besides colors. The biggest problem we have is glow from UV brighteners. They really show up in darker lighting. Just when we hunt the most at dawn and dusk. Deer and elk have no UV filters on their eyes like we do. We can only see what they do with a black light. If you have UV brighteners in your clothing the deer can see you the same as we can see blaze orange. That's a good way for you to think how important it is to get rid of them. A sport wash will not get rid of them. It will just prevent to from getting anymore of them. What's needed after the sport wash is a UV killer in a spray. It's amazing how the glow disappears as you spray under a black light. Once it's removed from the clothing it will never come back as long as you use a sport wash. A good sport wash will also remove all the human scent.

Most hunters are only concerned with scent. It is very important too, but don't forget the neon blue glow from UV brighteners.

cali_hornhunter
04-30-2012, 11:08 AM
This is a good thread as I never thought of the UV factor of clothes just of the scent and blending in this will have me
Now looking at my clothes with a black light and mitigating the UV effect of my hunting clothing