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bigshot
07-03-2012, 12:44 AM
Anyone know what is the legal minimum caliber for antelope in Wyoming. Ive been searching their website and can't find anything. Maybe there is no minimum?

I Plan to use my custom Rem. 700, 7mm SAUM with 140 grain Accubonds. My buddy wants to use something much smaller....

Drhorsepower
07-03-2012, 01:12 AM
Anyone know what is the legal minimum caliber for antelope in Wyoming. Ive been searching their website and can't find anything. Maybe there is no minimum?

I Plan to use my custom Rem. 700, 7mm SAUM with 140 grain Accubonds. My buddy wants to use something much smaller....

It is in the regs, you have to look harder, I think and keyword is think, it has to be larger than .23/100 bore with min length cartridge of 2"?

If and when I return, I would consider taking my .243 rem but probably couldn't stomach not using my 7mm due to pure love, time, and loyalty I have for that weapon.

I went to Wyoming with my 7mm rem mag shooting same bullet, overkill? I think a little but it is all in the eyes of the beholder my friend. Good luck and if you place that bullet where you want to, it doesn't really matter.

7200
07-03-2012, 01:29 AM
Bore diameter Larger than .23 inch is correct. This applies to all big game and trophy animals. If you look in the regs its under "firearms "

HuskyMusky
07-03-2012, 11:29 AM
ha, well that's certainly legal!

btw my "best antelope cartridges" would probably be the .243win and .25-06 w/100gr

even the 270win is a bit "overkill" and would probably be as big as I'd want to go, of course using your favorite rifle that may be larger than a 270 makes sense, just not needed is all.

best of luck!

btw I believe MT and WY allow the use of .22-250/.220swift calibers, CO I think is .23+ but don't hold me to this.

bigshot
07-03-2012, 12:16 PM
Thanks for the info guys, my buddy will be using his Rem 700, 243 win. I developed some super accurate loads for it. Were going to buy a couple doe tags too. Looks like we got access on some private land and the ranch owner wants us to shoot every Coyote we see on his property. He stated Wyoming has a $45.00 bounty on Coyotes. Do we need to purchase a separate license to shoot coyotes?

Colorado Cowboy
07-03-2012, 01:07 PM
Looks like we got access on some private land and the ranch owner wants us to shoot every Coyote we see on his property. He stated Wyoming has a $45.00 bounty on Coyotes. Do we need to purchase a separate license to shoot coyotes?

No special license required for coyotes. Don't know about the bounties.

kcaves
07-03-2012, 01:16 PM
Thanks for the info guys, my buddy will be using his Rem 700, 243 win. I developed some super accurate loads for it. Were going to buy a couple doe tags too. Looks like we got access on some private land and the ranch owner wants us to shoot every Coyote we see on his property. He stated Wyoming has a $45.00 bounty on Coyotes. Do we need to purchase a separate license to shoot coyotes?

What area is this in, I want to go shoot coyotes there, converse county they are only 20 bucks for bounties. Wyoming only allows .23 caliber or bigger for big game animals. Coyotes, use either the smallest or the biggest damn caliber gun u want. You should see what a 338 Papua does to one


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Murdy
07-03-2012, 01:23 PM
btw my "best antelope cartridges" would probably be the .243win and .25-06 w/100gr

even the 270win is a bit "overkill" and would probably be as big as I'd want to gobtw I believe MT and WY allow the use of .22-250/.220swift calibers, CO I think is .23+ but don't hold me to this.

I'm on the verge of buying a rifle that the primary use would be antelope. Originally was thinking the .243 -- now decided on the 25-06, but, doing some further reading thought maybe the .270 would be better in open country where it's windy due to higher BC. even if it's a bit overkill. Too many choices.

Elkoholic307
07-03-2012, 02:14 PM
Don't forget about the 6.5s

Colorado Cowboy
07-03-2012, 02:37 PM
I shoot a 25-06 older model Ruger M77. I probably have shot 40 to 50 antelope and just as many deer with it. IMHO it is the perfect caliber for both, I shoot only handloads with a 100 gr bullet for goats and a 117 gr for deer. If I only had one gun for everything smaller than elk, this would be it. I have also killed several hogs, good job there too.

HuskyMusky
07-03-2012, 02:45 PM
I'm on the verge of buying a rifle that the primary use would be antelope. Originally was thinking the .243 -- now decided on the 25-06, but, doing some further reading thought maybe the .270 would be better in open country where it's windy due to higher BC. even if it's a bit overkill. Too many choices.

I went with a .243win for my specific antelope rifle. Love it!

I shoot 85gr TSX, also awesome! the .243win I believe tends to have higher BC's than the .25-06, but the .270win probably beats both I'm not certain.

I was gonna say get a .243win, but a 25-06 and even the 270 are all great options.

could always get a 6.5-284 Norma w/142gr bullet, possibly from Savage if you want high BC's and wind bucking!

It was funny, last time at the range in WY before antelope opened, 3 of us were there, all getting ready for antelope, all shooting .243win!

bigshot
07-03-2012, 05:18 PM
What area is this in, I want to go shoot coyotes there, converse county they are only 20 bucks for bounties. Wyoming only allows .23 caliber or bigger for big game animals. Coyotes, use either the smallest or the biggest damn caliber gun u want. You should see what a 338 Papua does to one


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Where going to be hunting in Unit 71, I'm now thinking about buying a specialty rig just for antelope, gonna wait till after this trip so I can a better idea on what I should get. Its probably gonna be a toss up between a 25 cal and a 6.5mm since I don't own one in those calibers yet.....

HuskyMusky
07-03-2012, 05:43 PM
Where going to be hunting in Unit 71, I'm now thinking about buying a specialty rig just for antelope, gonna wait till after this trip so I can a better idea on what I should get. Its probably gonna be a toss up between a 25 cal and a 6.5mm since I don't own one in those calibers yet.....

Could always get a .257wby, or heck .240wby! (now available in the vanguard)

Btw almost impossible to beat the .243win when talking about a coyote/antelope combo rifle!

Although probably no right answer from .243 to .270

Colorado Cowboy
07-03-2012, 06:30 PM
I have a .25-06 and a .257 Wby and both are great calibers. BUT....after shooting the Wby a lot lately, I am really liking my .25-06 a lot better than the Wby. Wby has more recoil & is lots louder. The thing that I am really thinking about is it worth shooting 10 grains more powder to gain 200-250 fps. I am withholding my final call until after I have shot the Wby at 400& 500 yds. The only reason I bought the Wby was a good friend was getting rid of it and I couldn't pass it up...too good a buy. If I end up not really liking it that much, I'll get my $$$ out of it!

Guess I've had too much success for a lot of years with my old Ruger 25-06.:)

bigshot
07-03-2012, 07:24 PM
I went with a .243win for my specific antelope rifle. Love it!

I shoot 85gr TSX, also awesome! the .243win I believe tends to have higher BC's than the .25-06, but the .270win probably beats both I'm not certain.

I was gonna say get a .243win, but a 25-06 and even the 270 are all great options.

could always get a 6.5-284 Norma w/142gr bullet, possibly from Savage if you want high BC's and wind bucking!

It was funny, last time at the range in WY before antelope opened, 3 of us were there, all getting ready for antelope, all shooting .243win!

Hey HuskyMusky, whats your recipe for the 85 grain, TSX load. I came up with some super accurate loads using 100 grain Nosler Solid Base BTs behind 46 grains of IMR 7828 and Win large rifle primers, 3/8 inch groups.

bigshot
07-03-2012, 07:33 PM
I have a .25-06 and a .257 Wby and both are great calibers. BUT....after shooting the Wby a lot lately, I am really liking my .25-06 a lot better than the Wby. Wby has more recoil & is lots louder. The thing that I am really thinking about is it worth shooting 10 grains more powder to gain 200-250 fps. I am withholding my final call until after I have shot the Wby at 400& 500 yds. The only reason I bought the Wby was a good friend was getting rid of it and I couldn't pass it up...too good a buy. If I end up not really liking it that much, I'll get my $$$ out of it!

Guess I've had too much success for a lot of years with my old Ruger 25-06.:)

Hey CC, let me know if you sell, might be interested. A 240 WBY sounds good too. I also been eye balling a Cooper M52 rifle in 6.5x284. There is going to be three of us on this trip, my third buddy has an old Browning BPR, in 25-06 that he is going to take along. He said it shoots great and it is his favorite deer rifle. I'll be watching to see how it does....He loaded some hot 100 grain Nosler Balistic tips.

I'll also be taking my Browning SS Stalker, in 270WSM for my backup rifle and will probly shoot one of my Does with it just to see how it does compared to the other calibers...

HuskyMusky
07-03-2012, 08:39 PM
Hey HuskyMusky, whats your recipe for the 85 grain, TSX load. I came up with some super accurate loads using 100 grain Nosler Solid Base BTs behind 46 grains of IMR 7828 and Win large rifle primers, 3/8 inch groups.

I shoot the federal 85gr TSX factory load.

They all seem to shoot about the same out of my rifle though.

Thought about trying that superformance 80gr gmx load from hornady, but I see little reason to switch.

Colorado Cowboy
07-03-2012, 09:45 PM
Hey CC, let me know if you sell, might be interested. A 240 WBY sounds good too. I also been eye balling a Cooper M52 rifle in 6.5x284. There is going to be three of us on this trip, my third buddy has an old Browning BPR, in 25-06 that he is going to take along. He said it shoots great and it is his favorite deer rifle. I'll be watching to see how it does....He loaded some hot 100 grain Nosler Balistic tips.

My 25-06 loves the 100 gr Nosler BT also. If I decide I want to sell the Wby, I'll let you know. It will be after hunting season, because i still have some more work to do on loads.

6mm Remington
07-04-2012, 12:25 AM
Nothing wrong with a 6mm Remington there either guys! My son's 6mm is shooting the 90 gr. E-tip and it has taken antelope, deer, and two falls ago, his first elk, a large cow with one shot at 350 yards! I shoot a 6mm Remington with 100 gr. Nosler Partitions at 3140 fps mostly for antelope, but have also used my wife's 25-06 and my own 30-06 with great success. Hard to go wrong with a good 6mm Remington!
David

BobT
07-04-2012, 07:43 AM
Up to this point my pronghorn rifle has been a Ruger #1 in .270 Winchester. This year I'm working with a Savage in .25/06 shooting a 115 grain Nosler BT and so far it's looking good. I chose the 115 over the 100 grain bullet for a little better BC.

Bob

bigshot
07-04-2012, 12:00 PM
Hey BobT,
Just curious why you dropped down from a 270 to a 25-06. Was the 270 an overkill?

Bitterroot Bulls
07-04-2012, 12:15 PM
I have killed antelope with a variety of calibers from .243 to 300 RUM, and had satisfactory performance out of all of them. The RUM with Berger 185 VLD-H was actually a great caliber for antelope due to its resistance to wind drift. Where I hunt antelope, wind is a common companion. It may be surprising, but meat loss with the RUM wasn't bad.

Last year I used a 7-08 with Barnes TTSX, and had a nice clean one shot kill at 340 yards. I really like that cartridge and bullet for antelope. Meat loss was almost non-existant.

I also think 6.5's with their high BCs would be great in the wind.

Texans42
07-04-2012, 12:24 PM
Killed lots using any thing from 22-250 to 300mag

My wife shot her's using vortex ammo in 80gr ttsx. 340yards

My favorite is my encore 25-06 with nolser custom ammo in 100grain partition. if I drawn another land owner tag down here probably use 257wby with 80ttsx... Been amazing performance so far.

Colorado Cowboy
07-04-2012, 06:34 PM
Interesting to read what everyones favorite is. But the thing that is even more important than the caliber, is that you are confident in what your capable of, what your rifle in capable of and that you practice enough that you know exactly what your favorite combination (including you) can do under all the conditions you might encounter.

Thats one of my problems with my new .257 Wby. My old favorite M77 Ruger in 25-06 and I have been partners for 35 years and have killed a lot of animals together. When I need it to perform, I know it will be there for me.

brooks
07-04-2012, 07:10 PM
I bought a Winchester model 70 in .25 wssm when they first came out and that thing has been the best deer and antelope rifle I have ever owned ! 110 gn Nosler Acubond, 4x12x40 leupold, heavy stainless steel bull barrel....just point that thing at a deer or goat and it's going down. One shot one kill on everthing from 40 to 400 yards with little damage.

mcseal2
07-05-2012, 12:51 PM
I'll likely be packing my M70 in 264 win mag. The 140gr accubond load I've been using will work fine unless I find a load for the 140gr Berger VLD it likes between now and then. The accubond has performed flawlessly on everything I've shot with it, I just wouldn't mind using the Berger from this rifle due to the higher BC. It's kinda becoming my specialized long range/high wind rifle since I bought a lighter weight 270 win.

BobT
07-05-2012, 07:40 PM
Hey BobT,
Just curious why you dropped down from a 270 to a 25-06. Was the 270 an overkill?

Nope! Just wanted a new gun specifically for antelope, I don't think there is any such thing as overkill. Another one I considered was the .300 WSM and my son in law is taking a .300 WM and the other fellow going with me will be shooting a 6.5X.284. I simply picked the .25/06 because it was enough and the most accurate of the 3 rifles I was testing as possible candidates. I am also working on a 7MM Mashburn Super and have a .264 WM in the serious planning stage, either one of these 2 could get the nod next year. Year before last I hunted with a Striker pistol in .243. I was happy with it too. I really don't care much about the caliber as long as it's accurate. I can avoid excessive meat loss with good bullet selection and careful shot placement.

I just love chasing pronghorns, as long as it is accurate and legal I'll use it.

Bob

Fish
07-09-2012, 10:03 AM
I'll take the same two guns as I did last season, A 257 Robert's and a 6.5x55.
I shoot a 100gr barnes X @ 3,200fps out of the Roberts, a Ruger #1 with a 26in barrel. I will use 129gr Hornadys in the 6.5 @2850. Both worked real well last year on antelope. I like small cal rifles that don't kick the hell out of me but get the job done. That said, I could be tempted to take my Ruger 375 H&H just for those big doe lopes.

bigshot
07-10-2012, 11:26 PM
I'll take the same two guns as I did last season, A 257 Robert's and a 6.5x55.
I shoot a 100gr barnes X @ 3,200fps out of the Roberts, a Ruger #1 with a 26in barrel. I will use 129gr Hornadys in the 6.5 @2850. Both worked real well last year on antelope. I like small cal rifles that don't kick the hell out of me but get the job done. That said, I could be tempted to take my Ruger 375 H&H just for those big doe lopes.

hahahahaha, yea those 375 H&H rifles don't kick at all.....

HuntWYODon
07-11-2012, 05:18 PM
As long as it is .23 cal or larger it's legal. Don't think you will find any .23 cal. rifles though.
I think whatever rifle you shoot well is the one to use. I've killed loper bucks ,1 with a .243 , 10 with a 7mm Rem mag and last 3 with Rem 300 Utra Mag. last ones with it in 2010 at 444 yds.and a doe loper at 310 yds last year. All died the same. I like using the same rifle I hunt elk and deer with. I use have used my 300 RUM and nothing but Barnes 180 TSX and TTSX on everything for last 6 yrs. My son used my 7 mag with 140 gr. Barnes TTSX on his deer and antelope and they dropped like rocks too. He wanted to use his .243 but I convinced him he may get a long shot. Both were around a hundred yards... Bigshot, use what you like best and drop em in the dirt.

xtreme
07-11-2012, 05:58 PM
I have never fired a shot at a loper, but if I ever get a tag I will use the 168 Berger in 7mm. This combo helps increase the odds.

HuntWYODon
07-11-2012, 09:14 PM
I agree . I like having a flat shooting hard hitting caliber/bullet incase of a long shot. Yours would certainly do it !

MWScott72
07-12-2012, 10:04 AM
I have a Sako (Tikka) .25-06 that I absolutely love for deer. I haven't tried it on antelope yet, but will do so this fall. It's a great rifle with almost no kick. I killed a whitetail last year at 315 yds using 120-grain custom loads moving at 3,000+ fps, and while it didn't pancake him, he only stayed on his feet for about 5-6 seconds before tipping over.

My dad had some serious health issues derail his hunting activities a couple years back, and he has been discharging his hunting rifles to those of us that hunt in the family. He gave me the same Tikka model in .300 WM and that will become my elk rifle. I have a feeling that the three of us will become good friends over the next few years!

I'd trade all of this to have my dad's health back though. I was looking forward to hunting with him more when he retired, but I'm happy that he's still with us and can still go out from time to time in a more limited capacity.

HuntWYODon
07-12-2012, 05:11 PM
MW,
Sorry to hear about your Dad's health.
I never got to hunt any big game with my dad. He would only hunt birds,rabbits and squirrels.
I kinda got interested in it with my best friend and got hooked in a bad way ! My friend hardly ever hunts anymore.
I think the 25.06 has to be one of the perfect loper guns ever. I watched my friend drop a loper over 600 yds with a lucky shot once.
Was shooting as flat as my 7 mm Rem mag. . That was in 1992. He has never been back to Wy. since. I tried to get him to go on a 20 yr. reunion hunt. He liked the idea but has since backed out.
Anyway, hope you get to hunt antelope with yout 25.06 and you dad does better.

justinthedoc
07-27-2012, 11:56 AM
agreed love the 25's, kill anything you want, hard to find ammo though unless your in a bigger city with a good sporting goods, or reload yourself. Have been playing with the 300wsm with that superformance powder, holy smokes 165 gr at 3612FPS think im gonna back her off abit though, hate to blow the barrel out.

HuntWYODon
07-27-2012, 04:52 PM
agreed love the 25's, kill anything you want, hard to find ammo though unless your in a bigger city with a good sporting goods, or reload yourself. Have been playing with the 300wsm with that superformance powder, holy smokes 165 gr at 3612FPS think im gonna back her off abit though, hate to blow the barrel out.

That's wicked fast ! I can only get 3630 fps. with a 150 gr, and 103.0 grs. Retumbo out of my 300 RUM ! Bad thing is that if you aren't shooting a Barnes or a bonded bullet they blow up like grenades when they meet the meat. I've stuck with 180 gr. Barnes TSX for 6 yrs. and last couple yrs. TTSX. They're moving at 3360 fps. W/100 gr. Retumbo. Wonder what superperformance would do out of my 300 RUM...??? :confused:

Colorado Cowboy
07-27-2012, 05:13 PM
Damn....you guys and your 30 cal mags flying out at 3300 to 3600 fps. Antelope guns....come on guys give me a break! Might as well use a .50 Barrett sniper gun!. Give them por little 100# critters a sporting chance. My .25 kill them just as dead....with a lot less powder.

HuntWYODon
07-27-2012, 06:14 PM
Damn....you guys and your 30 cal mags flying out at 3300 to 3600 fps. Antelope guns....come on guys give me a break! Might as well use a .50 Barrett sniper gun!. Give them por little 100# critters a sporting chance. My .25 kill them just as dead....with a lot less powder.
It's a pain to take a couple different rifles with you when you hunt out of state though. A couple years ago I took my son to Wy.. He wanted to use his TC Hunter with 28 in barrel in .243 for deer and antelope. I had a great load for it built up with an 85 gr. Barnes TXS at 3400+ fps. Figured it be fine for antelope. I took my 7mm Rem mag for him just in case. He shot both his deer and loper with the 7 mag . didn't have time to dig out the .243 both times. I agree it's over kill but I like carrying/hunting with one rifle most of the time (for big game). I shot one loper with a .243. all others w/7 mag or 300 RUM. 2010 at 444 yds. and last yr. at 336 yds.. I also like being able to hold dead on with my 300 RUM ;)

PLP
07-28-2012, 12:23 AM
overkill!..lol..nah..I could shoot turkeys with 2 3/4" #6's,but Id rather use 3.5" num 4s...I got my 300 win mag just for the west..it was more than enough gun back home on deer,and perfect for hogs.

I used the 130gr barnes TTSX in my 300 and shot some hogs and deer..didnt mess up the meat too bad at all..but I went back to ga arms 165 nosler ballistic tip,just because it pops harder,and makes bigger holes..the ttsx never failed tho,and nothing ever stopped the bullet..shot a deer in the chest and it blew all the way out the ham..and shot 2 hogs both thru the head with one shot,and the bullet kept going..It just seemed that if it didnt hit bone it would blow thru so freakin fast it didnt make a big hole...and it was kinda odd the way it would blow insides out the entrance hole!yeah entrance hole..it went thru them so fast thats exactly what would happen..sometimes that would plug up the hole and make bloodtrailing more difficult.

I was told that it goes thru so fast that it creates a shockwave inside which bounces off the opposite side(inside)and then it ripples back toward the entrance..and thats why that would happen..

Colorado Cowboy
07-28-2012, 09:00 AM
Hey guys, just wanted to jab at you a little. Seriously, I really don't care what caliber someone shoots at big game, it's their choice. Just so they know their gun and can shoot it well is what really counts. Shot placement is more important that how big (or small for that matter) the bullet is. Shoot well guys............:cool:

HuntWYODon
07-29-2012, 03:31 PM
Hey guys, just wanted to jab at you a little. Seriously, I really don't care what caliber someone shoots at big game, it's their choice. Just so they know their gun and can shoot it well is what really counts. Shot placement is more important that how big (or small for that matter) the bullet is. Shoot well guys............:cool:
CC,
We all know that ! I myself couldn't think of a more perfect cartrige for antelope than a 25.06 !
PLP,
I've been using Barnes TSX and TTSX on elk, deer and antelope for many yrs. The are the bomb for me. Bust bones. and keep on going. in 2008 I shot a bull elk in Wy. at 543 yds. with my 300 RUM. I held on the top of his shoulder (air). Fisrt shot hit right above his front leg joint shattering the big leg bone and blew into his chest just missing above his heart. He was dead on his feet. He ran a few steps and turn to opposite side and stoped. I repeated everything exactly the same and he went down. The 2nd shot hit the other leg in same spot but 2 in. lower. Also blew upper leg bone in half and took out the top of his heart. I couldn't repeat the 2 in. group at over 500 yds. in the rest of my life. Sorry, I know not about what antelope caliber !

justinthedoc
07-30-2012, 10:38 AM
Probably shouldnt say anything but up until this year I had been shootn-em with a 338-378 Wthyby. 265 gr LRX barnes hand loads was right at 3000FPS at muzzle. I think the barometric pressure dropped everytime I shot the gun :). Needless to say got tired of the cost and unless they were 400yrds or further it was just devastating for lack of a better term. Seriously the antelope I shot last year was so bad I didnt bring my kid up to him. He was pretty much already field dressed and I wasnt really to happy with myself for that. He ended up going 85 1/8 NET and salvaged most of the meat. So I bought a 300wsm, seemed like a alaround caliber. Would love to have the money to get a 25 of some sort though for the speed goats really dnt need more than that, if it was legal I would hunt em with a .223 personally.

BobT
07-30-2012, 12:11 PM
He ended up going 85 1/8 NET and salvaged most of the meat. So I bought a 300wsm, seemed like a alaround caliber. Would love to have the money to get a 25 of some sort though for the speed goats really dnt need more than that, if it was legal I would hunt em with a .223 personally.

I was working pretty hard on a .300 WSM too and it shoots nearly as well as the .25/06 but it is a pound heavier and has more recoil. Since I don't see myself shooting over 500 yards except in the case of a wounded animal it should do nicely.

How about some pics of the 85 incher?

Bob