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mthuntress
03-15-2011, 04:14 PM
I need to upgrade!Any recommendation would be great but it can't be an air filled mattress that was my last one and it popped on me in the backcountry.

brudno
03-15-2011, 05:26 PM
therma rest z-lite probably the best and one of the lightest foam pads. Folds up like an accordian.

woodtick
03-17-2011, 03:50 PM
Mtnhuntress I really think you should look into the Big Agnes Insulated Air Core. i understand your thoughts about the air cell pads, but this thing is amazing and I've beat the tar out of it and not mention it's light and extremely comfortable.

CoBackcountry
03-17-2011, 10:20 PM
big agnes insulated air core is also warm can use my 20 degree wm bag into early nov

mthuntress
03-17-2011, 10:48 PM
Thanks I'll look into it

Twojump
04-07-2011, 10:21 PM
I use (2)... thermarest z lite and a thermarest self inflating 3/4 body pad... never slept so good!

RUTTIN
04-08-2011, 07:28 AM
therma rest z-lite probably the best and one of the lightest foam pads. Folds up like an accordian.

+1 love mine

IL Hntr
04-08-2011, 07:57 AM
I just got a Nemo Astro Air Insulated last night. I have only had a chance to lay on it inside but it is fairly light 1lb. 8 oz. and very comfortable. It is basically a more durable and quieter Neo Air from everything I have gathered so far. I don't have a lot of experience with it yet but you may want to check it out, so far I'm impressed.

S&S Archery
04-08-2011, 09:16 AM
I have both a Neo Air and Big Agnes inuslated air core. The neo air is sweet and super light but it definitely is a thinner material and I am super careful not to put it on top of anything sharp. The Air Core I've had for 5 years and have beat that thing to hell and it's still holding up great.

Maxhunter
04-22-2011, 07:03 PM
Really like my Neo-Air due to the weight, but always watch wear I place it so I don't get any punctures. I did sleep out on some rocks one night when I was hunting dall sheep in Alaska and never got any holes in it.

*******
04-23-2011, 12:17 PM
I found one of these at one of the big camping and outdoors mega stores the other day. About a hundred bucks and only 9.1 ounces. If your looking ultra, ultra, ultra light. This might be it. I've never used one but reading this page reminded me of this thing.
Their website.

http://www.klymit.com/index.php/products/sleeping-pads/ineriaxframe.html

Smallest I've ever seen. No good if you sleep on your side.

pcc2b
05-28-2011, 03:39 PM
i checked out the neo air at REI last week because I was thinking about getting one. It seemed super loud, like sleeping on bags of lays chips. My vote is for the BA insulated air core!

In God We Trust
05-29-2011, 01:27 AM
I bought a Big Agnes lat year, the thing is light and incredibly comfortable. I would recomend these to anyone.

SDbowhunter
05-29-2011, 07:22 AM
I use the thermarest z-lite and love it, if I'm not packing in very far from the truck, or its super cold outside, I'll put a Cabelas Alaskan Guide air pad on top for added protection. Its a heavy pad so I don't use it much, I'm looking into the BA air cor as well.

Chris
05-31-2011, 03:51 PM
I'll second what pcc2b said about the neo air being loud. I played with it last week in person and it is very noisy.

twp1224
06-01-2011, 10:19 AM
Big Anges Insulated Air Core is my pad of choice.

MT backcountry hunter
06-01-2011, 12:24 PM
Gotta love the BA insulated air core. I love mine and definitely bumps up the temp rating on your sleeping bag.The only downside is there weight. If I was going to buy a new sleeping pad today I would buy the neo air from thermarest. The shop I work for sells both as well.

dp1077
06-12-2011, 12:45 AM
Have the Neo-air and have not had any problems with it,but i always carry an extra patch kit for it just in case.

Green&Gold
06-20-2011, 07:44 PM
I use the smallest Neo Air. As others mentioned, it's super light, but you also have to be careful as it could be punctured if you're not careful.

pcc2b
07-12-2011, 05:39 PM
Just saw the klymit inertia x frame pad review in eastmans. looks promising. 9oz is crazy light. and $100 isnt a bad price.

Bitterroot Bulls
07-12-2011, 07:50 PM
I just received a Neoair Medium, and I think it should be good to go. I laid on it next to my BA Air Core and they have a similar feel, and similar sound. The Neoair seems much lighter.

DryFlyGuy
08-25-2011, 08:35 PM
Big NeoAir fan here.

I have to chuckle about the 'noise' issue. I've yet to hunt all day and not totally collapse into my bag at night. Never once can I think of a time when I even thought about pad noise.

My hunting buddy uses the BA insulated core. It seems more stout and inflates quicker, but the weight & bulk are also more substantial.

OR Archer
08-25-2011, 09:39 PM
I use a Pacific Outdoor Equipment Ether Thermo 6. Love it. Used to have a Zlite and well its just sucks. I sleep much more comfortable and warmer with the POE pad.

worx53
08-27-2011, 08:15 PM
I used to use the thermarest z-style roll ups (same as folding one basically),and they worked well. Then I upgraded to a Big agnes Ins. aircore and it was way more comfortable.....but it was slippery with my marmot helium sleeping bag on it. i would end up off it during the night, and it was narrow for my body style. Then it sprung a leak and I had no repair kit. I got a thermarest insulated air style just like it but wider, my marmot bag doesnt slip off of it (different coarser outside material). And I now always have the tiny repair kit for a leak.

KimmesFarms
09-14-2011, 08:52 PM
Just picked up the new Neo Air All Season. R rated at 4.9. Will be spending 9 nights on it so I will let you know how it performs...

revcwood
09-20-2011, 03:19 PM
Mtnhuntress I really think you should look into the Big Agnes Insulated Air Core. i understand your thoughts about the air cell pads, but this thing is amazing and I've beat the tar out of it and not mention it's light and extremely comfortable.

Second that. It is a great pad, and very durable.

8750
09-20-2011, 08:54 PM
I bought the Big Agnes Air core and it is great. not much heavier than the Neoair and about 2/3 less in price. Most seem to want the insulated version, but the uninsulated version is going to insulate just as well. (the best insulation is trapped air). It compacts to a very small package. The only drawback I have found is that it takes alot of breathes to inflate. Big headrush at 11000 ft!! It comes with a patch kit that rides in the stuffsack, in its own compartment, so a pop is fairly easy to fix.

Quiethunter
10-04-2011, 04:10 PM
Z-Lite for backpacking when you need bulletproof performance. For warmth and comfort I really like the Eped Downmat 7.

hunthighcountry
10-04-2011, 07:52 PM
For the 20x48 size,
Thermarest NeoAir weight: 9oz, price:$130
BA Insulated Air Core weight: 16 oz, price:$70
BA Uninsulated Air Core weight 16oz, price: $45

All three are excellent pads at 2.5" thick, very similar in rolled up size, but there is a difference in weight.
Has anyone out there used both of these? I would love to hear your review.

Bitterroot Bulls
10-04-2011, 08:14 PM
I have both the uninsulated Air Core and the neoair. the neoair is noticeably lighter, more compact, and a lot warmer. I also prefer the horizontal baffles of the neoair to the vertical baffles of the Air Core.

Be warned, the neoair does not come with a repair kit or stuff sack, though!

elk*hunter
01-08-2012, 02:07 PM
I have a Thermarest Ridgerest. It is cheap, bullet proof, and ultralight. I use a grey foam pad for work, I spend a lot of time sleeping in the dirt for work so I am pretty much conditioned to them. The key to comfort is picking the best sleeping spot, in my opinion.

Kevin Root
01-08-2012, 09:00 PM
I like my Therm-a-Rest Z-Lite. It folds up in sections. The 51"x20" is 10 ounces, 72" one is 14 ounces. I've had the air filled pads and just don't trust them from leaking anymore.

Ikeepitcold
01-08-2012, 09:52 PM
I have a Thermarest Ridgerest. It is cheap, bullet proof, and ultralight. I use a grey foam pad for work, I spend a lot of time sleeping in the dirt for work so I am pretty much conditioned to them. The key to comfort is picking the best sleeping spot, in my opinion.

I agree with the Ridge. I have one of them in my dogs kennel and it's lasted for awhile, over a year. I went to a blow up and it works well for me. But the Ridge will hold up to a lot of punishment.

Bitterroot Bulls
01-08-2012, 10:33 PM
I like my Therm-a-Rest Z-Lite. It folds up in sections. The 51"x20" is 10 ounces, 72" one is 14 ounces. I've had the air filled pads and just don't trust them from leaking anymore.

My Neoair stood up well this year. No leaks whatsoever, but I always have duct tape, just in case.

Drhorsepower
01-08-2012, 11:20 PM
My Neoair stood up well this year. No leaks whatsoever, but I always have duct tape, just in case.

Duct tape is always a must. After sleeping on it a season, how does it compare to your big Agnes? I have a therma rest prolite 3. I just patched my first hole in it this weekend, I am thinking about upgrading. My mattress is 1"-1.5" and I want to go with either the big Agnes insulated or the neolite. I don't know if the extra money for the neolite is worth it though. Thoughts?

Kevin Root
01-08-2012, 11:42 PM
My Neoair stood up well this year. No leaks whatsoever, but I always have duct tape, just in case.

Bitterroot Bulls did you get the new Neoair 4 season that came out in 2011? It does look comfortable and compact to pack up, lightweight and the heat membrane sounds like a interesting innovation from other air pads that don't have good R value or are more bulky to pack with added insulation. I just was wondering if it did pop or leak would it still retain the R value somewhat? The pad gets good reviews from what I've read. I've had air pads where I had a hard time fixing or even finding the slow leaks easy. The Neoair looks like a good one though for me to perhaps look at again.

Bitterroot Bulls
01-09-2012, 06:11 AM
Bitterroot Bulls did you get the new Neoair 4 season that came out in 2011? It does look comfortable and compact to pack up, lightweight and the heat membrane sounds like a interesting innovation from other air pads that don't have good R value or are more bulky to pack with added insulation. I just was wondering if it did pop or leak would it still retain the R value somewhat? The pad gets good reviews from what I've read. I've had air pads where I had a hard time fixing or even finding the slow leaks easy. The Neoair looks like a good one though for me to perhaps look at again.

I have the standard crazy-light Neoair with an R value of 3.2, which is actually pretty good on its own. I think the pad requires air for the R value. I don't know how easy it is to find leaks or fix, because it hasn't leaked.

Kevin Root
01-09-2012, 08:34 AM
I have the standard crazy-light Neoair with an R value of 3.2, which is actually pretty good on its own. I think the pad requires air for the R value. I don't know how easy it is to find leaks or fix, because it hasn't leaked.

Thanks Bitterroot Bulls. As I get older comfort becomes perhaps more of a factor in getting a good nights sleep so I'm torn between more comfort or the thought of reliving the pad failing on me out on a trip due to a leak. I checked on the pad's site and I see they even have new model NeoAir Xlite for 2012. It seems to have the same R-value, 3.2 as what your mentioning and 12 oz for the 72" long.

I'm sure I have been the biggest part in my mattress air pads failing in the past :). I took a look at the recommended maintenance video on their site and I'm sure I've missed more than a few points that caused some of the delamination or it's mode of failure. Proper storage, site placement, getting some sunscreen or DEET on it or exposed it to direct sunlight more than I should to mention a few. I tend to be tough on stuff so long lasting and fairly bulletproof tends to be something I tend to remind myself of knowing how I am.

http://cascadedesigns.com/therm-a-rest/mattresses/fast-and-light/neoair-xlite/product

Bitterroot Bulls
01-09-2012, 08:46 AM
I am pretty careful with deet application. That stuff will eat up your rain jacket, tent walls, watch (my altimeter watch looks like it got too close to a fire). I won't let it near my Neoair. I don't have much other trouble taking care of my pad, either. It is either in my tent, or rolled up tight in the pack.

All that said, this pad seems more durable than you might think. I really like it. I have the Z-Lite pad also, but it doesn't get used now that I have the Neoair.

Kevin Root
01-09-2012, 09:23 AM
I am pretty careful with deet application. That stuff will eat up your rain jacket, tent walls, watch (my altimeter watch looks like it got too close to a fire). I won't let it near my Neoair. I don't have much other trouble taking care of my pad, either. It is either in my tent, or rolled up tight in the pack.

All that said, this pad seems more durable than you might think. I really like it. I have the Z-Lite pad also, but it doesn't get used now that I have the Neoair.

Ha that made me laugh about the deet. I've had my share of mishaps from that stuff leaking as well. I have a tripod that has that "close to the fire look" to it and it has ruined a day pack. Life's learning tends to be a work in progress :D.

My down Marmont sleeping bag material is real delicate so I have learned that I need to take better care of my sleeping equipment. I will tryout the NeoAir on a upcoming trip. I'm sure it is way more comfortable than the Z-Lite and I like the way it packs down and the rest of the specs on it.