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Umpqua Hunter
08-12-2012, 11:03 PM
We have to shoot fixed blade broad heads in Oregon. I want to go with the Shuttle T-Lock (100 grain) or the G5 Montecs (100 grain). For both deer and elk, which of these two broad heads would you recommend?

Drhorsepower
08-13-2012, 12:02 AM
I hear great things about the g5, maybe buy a pack of each and shoot em and see if you can tell a difference in them as far as accuracy although you might have to tune your bow and also maybe depth in target.

My go to fixed blade is the thunderhead 100gr. Just because I have a buttload of em.

BOHNTR
08-13-2012, 06:49 AM
Between those two......the Shuttle T's. Much stronger head, IMO.

Doe Nob
08-13-2012, 08:48 AM
I have shot shuttle T's for years, they fly really well, I think there may be other fixed blades that beat them in penetration tests, but to me if you put it in the right spot, the job will get done.

Darktimber
08-13-2012, 10:15 AM
The blade angle on the shuttle-t is way to steep. On dense bone (ie the shoulder blade) the steep angle causes them to put on the brakes and lock up. A more gradual angle like the montec has a much better chance at passing through dense bone. Remember, all broadheads will perform on the perfect shot, its the superior heads that will shine on the marginal shot to.

justinthedoc
08-13-2012, 10:41 AM
Shuttle for sure, G5's are good, I like how the shuttles fly, seem to steer a little less with the design, and no broadhead is punching threw a mature elks shoulder blade.

Darrin Stark
08-13-2012, 12:13 PM
I shoot the G5 Strikers last year was my first year using them and i really like them i shot a spike and the arrow went all the way through and the elk ran only thirty yards and dropped. But use whatever you are comfortable with.

Umpqua Hunter
08-13-2012, 02:26 PM
DR: I've also shot Thunderhead 100s for as long as I can remember, and have a bunch of parts too, but I am finally thinking of making a change.

Everyone: I like the simple one piece design of the G5s and the simplicity to resharpen, but I have heard many complaints on how sharp these heads can get, particularly on the stainless head. I'm guessing that also has a lot to do with the steep angle the blade is sharpened at.

I have heard excellent reviews on the Shuttle T-Lock, especially with the new sharper blades, and am leaning that way.

I'm looking for a fixed blade broad head that is say in the top 10% for aerodynamics, and say in the top 30% for penetration. I definitely lean to a forgiving broad head to set-up and shoot. Is there another obvious option I should be considering?

Joe Hulburt
08-14-2012, 12:35 AM
I'm looking for a fixed blade broad head that is say in the top 10% for aerodynamics, and say in the top 30% for penetration. I definitely lean to a forgiving broad head to set-up and shoot. Is there another obvious option I should be considering?

I would consider 4 blade Slick Trick Magnums in 100 grain over either of the two choices since you asked. They fly as well as the Shuttle T's but leave a bigger hole and better blood trail IMO. A little less money too....

Whatever you go with, pick a spot and best of luck to you. It's getting close!:)

RUTTIN
08-14-2012, 07:18 AM
I shot G5 Montecs one year and never shot them again. I could never get the blades as sharp as I would have liked them, even with there sharpening stone, and following the directions. I am a die hard Magnus Stinger fan, but was out of broadheads and needed to buy some, so I decided to change and give the Slick Trick Magnums a try. They fly really well out of the package, and I like the blade sharpness, even after shooting into my target 20 times the replaceable blades are sharper than what the G5 was out of the package. Good luck to you in your search, I know picking a broadhead can be one of the toughest things out there.

Darktimber
08-14-2012, 11:29 AM
Shuttle for sure, G5's are good, I like how the shuttles fly, seem to steer a little less with the design, and no broadhead is punching threw a mature elks shoulder blade.

I have seen a G5 striker do it and a Ramcat do it. The G5 punched through the blade at 25 yards and broke an opposing rib. Bull went 75 yards. The Ramcat was a quartering away shot at 40 yards. Went in by the last rib and exited the opposite shoulder blade for a complete pass through. Bull went 50 yards.

Used the shuttle-t's one year and put a forward shot on one @ 12 yards. That head acted like it hit a brick wall. This was towards the back of the bulls shoulder to, not the thick stuff. After that, me and my brother tested the shuttle on various dense objects. Epic fail. The blades are to steep for dense bone. So yes, a good head will punch a shoulder blade, and others will not.

gator7275
08-14-2012, 12:48 PM
try muzzys ive shot the original 3 blade and mx3 and they have never failed me and they fly great as long as your bow is tuned right I ve gotten complete pass thrus on qt ing away shots at 63 yds and when i lived in fl that was all i would use on hogs

Fink
08-14-2012, 01:56 PM
Everyone: I like the simple one piece design of the G5s and the simplicity to resharpen, but I have heard many complaints on how sharp these heads can get, particularly on the stainless head. I'm guessing that also has a lot to do with the steep angle the blade is sharpened at.

I really liked the one piece design of the G5, and they flew out of my bow really well, but they just weren't very sharp, and I could not get them sharp at all, with either of G5's sharpening devices, or any others. I ultimately got ride of them this year, to go with the G5 mechanical head. Those are some sharp blades. I really think you can't go wrong with a Muzzy as far as sharpness and accuracy is concerned in a fixed blade. Muzzy's might not be the sexiest head out there, but they have killed a ton of game.

Wild Country
08-14-2012, 05:17 PM
I have had great luck with shuttle t's. Although as mentioned above I didnt like the penatration but flew the best for me..I went to a 125 grain shuttle t and the penatration is very respectable and arrow flight was still the best. The loss of FPS was not enough to worry me and my shooting seems to have improved slightly at longer distances and the bow seems to have found its sweet spot. Just something to think about.

Umpqua Hunter
08-15-2012, 12:15 PM
Joe H & Ruttin: I have heard a lot of guys mention Slick Tricks on the hunting forums I frequent. I have not seen them carried at a local shop, so I haven't run into anyone shooting them. I have been doing my homework on-line. They look like a great design! I really like how the blades lock into the head. They are definitely on my short list now. I was leaning heavily to the Shuttle T Lock, but I am giving the Slick Trick Magnum 100 grain a serious look. I also like the idea that I can sharpen them more easily then the Shuttle T Lock.

It seems the Shuttle T-Lock is the standard for forgiving flight on a fixed blade. Is that safe to say? Would I be giving anything up with the Slick Tricks?

I have also heard some reports of Slick Tricks being a bit noisy in flight. Is that true?

dihardhunter
08-15-2012, 01:04 PM
Safely, of course, stand down range of any arrow in flight and it is hissing down range. Whether it's a hiss, buzz, whatever, there's gonna be noise. Is it probably going to affect where you hit the animal...not likely. Slick Tricks do have some noise when traveling downrange, but I'm a big believer in them. ST Magnum 100s for me. They very well may be louder than other broadheads though???

Joe Hulburt
08-15-2012, 01:22 PM
I have also heard some reports of Slick Tricks being a bit noisy in flight. Is that true?

I originally responded that I didn't hear any noise but then I went out and shot a bunch of arrows and I can hear a faint whistle even with just my field points and it could be a hair more with the Slick Tricks. I haven't got the best hearing thanks to the sound level of rock concerts in the early 80's.

I haven't had any problem with animals jumping the string with them I know that.

RUTTIN
08-15-2012, 09:23 PM
As far as noise with the Slick Trick Magnums I think they are super quiet, that is compared to my Magnus Stingers. As for sharpening the blades, I replaced the ones I am going to shoot but took my acusharp and sharpened the used blades, and it seemed to work well.

Umpqua Hunter
08-16-2012, 02:33 AM
Well....starting this thread I was looking at the Shuttle T-Lock and the G5 Montec. I ended up ordering the Slick Trick 100, in the standard blade width. I like the reviews I have read on their accuracy, the design of how the blades lock in, the short ferrule length, the one-piece steel ferrule, the heavier 0.035" blade thickness, the replaceable blades, and the reported sharpness of the blades. I am super partial to a "simple" well thought out design, and this head seems to be just that. Can't wait to try them out! Thanks for all the help guys!!

It sounds like if I ever want to make these "magnum" heads, I can just get some of the magnum blades. Does anyone have experience with that?

dihardhunter
08-16-2012, 08:37 AM
Yes, all you need to switch to Magnums is the Magnum blades. Same ferrule. Standards are a great choice for bigger game (theoretically more penetration), while the Magnums are unbeatable for deer-sized critters. If you buy a bastard file (the forum spell checker probably won't like that word!), the blades are thick enough that you can file out any curled blades from pass throughs into rocks, etc. then lay them on a stone and get them razor sharp again too.

J-Daddy
08-18-2012, 09:15 AM
Joe H & Ruttin: I have heard a lot of guys mention Slick Tricks on the hunting forums I frequent. I have not seen them carried at a local shop, so I haven't run into anyone shooting them. I have been doing my homework on-line. They look like a great design! I really like how the blades lock into the head. They are definitely on my short list now. I was leaning heavily to the Shuttle T Lock, but I am giving the Slick Trick Magnum 100 grain a serious look. I also like the idea that I can sharpen them more easily then the Shuttle T Lock.

It seems the Shuttle T-Lock is the standard for forgiving flight on a fixed blade. Is that safe to say? Would I be giving anything up with the Slick Tricks?

I have also heard some reports of Slick Tricks being a bit noisy in flight. Is that true?

I've shot both of those a lot in the past...Here's my Pro's & Con's of both=
Shuttle T's= PRO's
Best flight at long range that I've ever got with a fixed blade head after testing a bunch out to 100yds
Tough as nails and you don't have to worry about the blades coming out of them
Sharper since Trophy Taker bought them from Tight Point, and the new Black Op's model is supposed to be even sharper
CON's
Kinda pricey and not as easily found as some other brands "but it seems like most big stores carry them now days"
Still not the sharpest heads I've seen

Slick Trick= PRO's
Dang good buy for the money, standard Tricks can be found for less than $25 a 3 pack which is cheap these days
Sharp, all of them I've ever handled have been scary sharp out of the package
Really good flight out to about 70-80yds, then I had some drop off with them compared to Shuttle's.
CON's=
The long range drop off I mentioned above...It was really obvious at 100yds, but honestly I don't plan on shooting anything but foam at that range.
Blades aren't as strong as Shuttle T's....Not weak but not Shuttle T strong
Can be hard to find in a lot of areas

I'm probably gonna switch over to Slick Tricks for elk hunting because I can get them dirt cheap compared to other heads and they are a really good head.

labman
08-18-2012, 04:19 PM
I just purchased some slick trick magnums due to my other broad heads not tuning in my current bow. The slick tricks are within 1/2 inch from my field points out to 60 yards. They shoot amazing in my current set up.

Joe Hulburt
08-18-2012, 06:27 PM
I've only killed one elk with Slick Trick Magnums but penetration wasn't a problem on him. Complete pass thru.....short blood trail! Down within sight.:cool:

I think you will be pleased with your choice Umpqua Hunter!