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Darrin Stark
08-23-2012, 09:31 AM
What unit is the best unit for elk and why?

Old Hunter
08-23-2012, 09:44 AM
I give up.

What is it?

Darrin Stark
08-23-2012, 10:10 AM
I am asking you guys

NRS
08-23-2012, 12:27 PM
probably where there are the least amount of wolves!

Vanish
08-23-2012, 12:33 PM
This is not the kind of question to ask.

HuskyMusky
08-23-2012, 12:34 PM
does least amount of wolves = most amount of hunters?

hopefully some wolf hunting will help deer/elk quality...

but aren't wolves just 1 of the many.... ie.. cougars, black bears, brown bears, coyotes?

adbowhunter
08-23-2012, 12:35 PM
The unit that has the biggest bulls, man even I knew that one

NRS
08-23-2012, 12:42 PM
Yea it probably does = most hunters.
There are way to many predators in Idaho. All have an effect on the herds im sure.

NRS
08-23-2012, 12:44 PM
Also unit 63 would be good but all the elk are on INL and you cant hunt there.

Umpqua Hunter
08-23-2012, 02:32 PM
I give up.

What is it?

Now that's funny!

Umpqua Hunter
08-23-2012, 02:38 PM
I can't recall the unit number off the top of my head, but I'll see if I can describe it and get you in the general location....it's east of Oregon and Washington, south of Canada, west of Montana and Wyoming, and north of Nevada and Utah.

In all seriousness Unit 40 rifle hunt if you can draw a tag with worse than 100:1 odds.

sjsmallfield
08-23-2012, 03:34 PM
I can't recall the unit number off the top of my head, but I'll see if I can describe it and get you in the general location....it's east of Oregon and Washington, south of Canada, west of Montana and Wyoming, and north of Nevada and Utah.

Hahahahahahahahah!! LMAO

Darrin Stark
08-23-2012, 03:41 PM
But really if you guys are going to be immature keep your post to yourself. I hunt several units and i was just curious what units other people hunt. Hopefully you guys are having fun with your posts. Most of you are probably the guys that sit in your truck and drive around drinking beer and hoping a elk will run into your bullet...

Old Hunter
08-23-2012, 04:25 PM
No we're not, but to come to a forum you just joined, and ask us where to hunt. Doesn't go over well here.

Now that you can't seem to take a joke, and feel a need to insult us. I'll be surprised if you get any help.

Spud
08-23-2012, 04:32 PM
Since you are in Eastern Idaho, I'd check around Island Park. I've heard of several elk taken there. It's been a few years ago though.

Umpqua Hunter
08-23-2012, 04:34 PM
But really if you guys are going to be immature keep your post to yourself. I hunt several units and i was just curious what units other people hunt. Hopefully you guys are having fun with your posts. Most of you are probably the guys that sit in your truck and drive around drinking beer and hoping a elk will run into your bullet...

Hi Darrin. I think the question you posted got some good natured teasing, and I'm not too sure that personal insults are the best come back.

The replies you received, was because you asked a very forward question on one of your first posts. Most people would not walk up to someone they just met and ask them about the best place to hunt. That same etiquette tends to apply on hunting forums as well. But those kinds of questions are asked over and over again by new guys on hunting forums. That kind of question, especially when it is one of their first posts, does not usually go over very well. VANISH said it well, "that is not the kind of question to ask".

I hope you hang around, share your experiences and contribute. If you do, you will likely develop relationships with guys who would be more then happy to give you some advice. If the advice is specific, it is usually shared in PMs (personal messages) so its not out there for the whole world to read.

sjsmallfield
08-23-2012, 04:51 PM
But really if you guys are going to be immature keep your post to yourself. I hunt several units and i was just curious what units other people hunt. Hopefully you guys are having fun with your posts. Most of you are probably the guys that sit in your truck and drive around drinking beer and hoping a elk will run into your bullet...

Myself, like the others was just poking a little fun. There was no need to start insulting everyone. It really is a good group of folks on here with alot of good advice. Hope you stick around.

Darrin Stark
08-23-2012, 05:40 PM
Alright since everyone in this thread isn't from idaho let me let you know how the idaho hunting works. When you buy a tag you get two to four units typically. Therefore if i said i hunt the teton zone i could hunt two different units. So i figured if someone hunts the big desert units they would say i hunt the big desert zone.

Old Hunter
08-23-2012, 05:45 PM
I see at least two in this thread from Idaho.

I hunted Colorado for 50 years, before I was from Colorado.

Darrin Stark
08-23-2012, 05:46 PM
As for old hunter i personally don't want any advice from you. I won't be hunting colorado anytime soon. I don't expect any help i was just seeing how other hunters were faring in idaho.

Darrin Stark
08-23-2012, 05:50 PM
You see two from idaho and they are the ones offering advice and posting comments hunting related.

Old Hunter
08-23-2012, 05:59 PM
All you needed to do was to introduce yourself, and ask a more specific question, and it would have gone better. This is a very knowledgeable, and friendly forum.

So many guys join forums, ask where to hunt, get answers, and then you never see them again. It gets old after awhile.

Spud
08-23-2012, 06:10 PM
http://fishandgame.idaho.gov/ifwis/huntplanner/stats.aspx#elk

You can check odds/results of different units in Idaho here. That may help you decide which unit to hunt.

Darrin Stark
08-23-2012, 06:22 PM
Spud i have been putting in for elk, deer and antelope for fifteen plus years and i have only drawn one cow tag. I wish the idaho fish and game would do a point system. Also i have looking at some of the research projects they did on elk and many units are doing very well for elk numbers. The only ones really hurting are the central idaho and the diamond creek zone. A friend from twin falls told me two bulls got shot out of unit 44 that were pushing 400.

dying to kill
08-23-2012, 08:29 PM
lol this is a comedy house

bullelk
08-23-2012, 08:39 PM
Where u getting your info, Darrin? Island Park, Salmon, Tex Creek, and the Bitterroot units are all hurting. A decade and a half of wolf predation has hammered the herds in those units.

bullelk
08-23-2012, 08:42 PM
Also unit 63 would be good but all the elk are on INL and you cant hunt there.

Yes you can, with certain restrictions.

Darrin Stark
08-23-2012, 09:12 PM
Tex creek is meeting all management objectives you need to research it yourself. The island park zone is actually meeting most of the objectives and has improved the last few years. Salmon i agree is hurting. If you go to the fish and game website click on science and you can find the elk numbers.

Elkoholic307
08-24-2012, 09:18 AM
Darrin, I've been wondering the same thing. A friend told me he drew a really good tag in Idaho but I don't remember where. I'll see him Monday so I will find out then. I've been slightly interested in hunting Idaho so if things go well for him, maybe I'll apply there next year.

mcseal2
08-26-2012, 12:10 PM
Darrin, I've been wondering the same thing. A friend told me he drew a really good tag in Idaho but I don't remember where. I'll see him Monday so I will find out then. I've been slightly interested in hunting Idaho so if things go well for him, maybe I'll apply there next year.

not to sidetrack the thread, but I tried to reply to your PM and it said your mailbox is full.

Ikeepitcold
08-26-2012, 12:39 PM
Hi Darrin. I think the question you posted got some good natured teasing, and I'm not too sure that personal insults are the best come back.

The replies you received, was because you asked a very forward question on one of your first posts. Most people would not walk up to someone they just met and ask them about the best place to hunt. That same etiquette tends to apply on hunting forums as well. But those kinds of questions are asked over and over again by new guys on hunting forums. That kind of question, especially when it is one
of their first posts, does not usually go over very well. VANISH said it well, "that is not the kind of question to ask".

I hope you hang around, share your experiences and contribute. If you do, you will likely develop relationships with guys who would be more then happy to give you some advice. If the advice is specific, it is usually shared in PMs (personal messages) so its not out there for the whole world to read.


I couldn't have said it better myself.

Ikeepitcold
08-26-2012, 12:45 PM
Arco ID used to have some great elk hunting. I've hunted the Tex Creek and Palasades areas for years and they both are horrible now from what they used to be IMO. I know Arco is a draw but I don't know the odds. I've always bought OTC.

Welcome to the Forum

Elkoholic307
08-26-2012, 01:17 PM
not to sidetrack the thread, but I tried to reply to your PM and it said your mailbox is full.

Sorry, I cleared it so it should be good now.

ivorytip
08-26-2012, 01:56 PM
tha arco hunt i would be willing to say has the next record bull comimg off of it. its a draw hunt so i dont mind saying that for everyone to hear. the biggest bulls i have ever seen have been on that desert, good luck getting on them though.

T.S. Allen
08-26-2012, 02:29 PM
Well here I am a new member and ready to meet some great new people. I have lived in Idaho and there are many great units for elk. The Arco area is good but OTC tags are the best way to go, and as for the state record coming from the desert mmmm I have seen some monsters in other OTC units.

wolftalonID
08-26-2012, 02:42 PM
Well asking where a hunters honey hole is is like asking how big his wifes tits are.

Seriously. Elk like high mountains, timber, water. They are socially shy towards people.
So that being said, find a spot that looks like that and do what we all do. Scout it, hunt it, cry over it, dream about next years perfect results.
And no im not saying how big they are.... Lol

Haisen
08-26-2012, 03:41 PM
I've seen some big bulls late in the year in 52A, but the elk don't migrate through there like they did 10 to 15 years ago. There are still some big bulls that walk through there, but plan on spending a great deal of time glassing and waiting for one to show himself. Jumping one out of his bed is like finding a needle in a hay stack. Your best chance is finding migration routes, glassing points, and camping out for a few days at least late in the year.

ivorytip
08-26-2012, 04:39 PM
haisen called it. only reason i dont hunt that unit. however, the biggest sheds i have ever found have been on that unit. i enjoy hunting the timber and quakies, not much of an open desert guy. i dont have the balls to handle the rattle snakes out there.... yuck! wolfman.... come on man cant leave us hanging like that... haha jk.

dying to kill
08-26-2012, 09:18 PM
dont worry O H i got this one, hey stark check out the topic need to put a second season bull down not pickey and learn from my ignorance

Darrin Stark
08-26-2012, 09:35 PM
Dying to kill i like your question and if i was from colorado i would help you. Just because someone tells you a good unit doesn't mean you are going to automatically know where they are. I am sure colorado has quite a few good units. It isn't ignorant to ask a guy what is a good unit to hunt. If you said hey what mountain do you hunt then it would be a problem. Call the game and fish down there and ask them about the second season rifle and see what they say they might have some good advice for you.

Elkoholic307
08-27-2012, 07:48 AM
Well asking where a hunters honey hole is is like asking how big his wifes tits are.

Nobody is asking for any honey holes.

dying to kill
08-28-2012, 08:59 PM
appriciate it man, im really thinkin im jus gonna focus on my white tails this year and keep hittin the research hard to help make next year as in my favor as possible, the last 2 years i been goin like a mad man tryin to fill a tag in colorado and not focusing enough on the areas am aucually in. i got a neighbor thats been huntin the same place 6 years and no luck, now hes giving up on elk hunting he says he is burnt out, its just to hard. i dont think i would ever get to that point, but still im thinking hunt smarter not harder

IdahoHombre
08-28-2012, 11:04 PM
Darrin, I have just the solution for you. Subscribe to my mag at the link below, and you'll get it all, man.

Seriously, asking questions like that can be perceived as bad etiquette. But the problem with that question is that there isn't a perfect answer. We all want a place that has low hunter density, high elk density, high mature bull density, and terrain that is nice and easy. It just doesn't work that way, as far as OTC tags go.

You have to set priorities as to what you want: get away from other hunters? a particular landscape you like to hunt (north woods like N. Idaho or desert)? Absolute success at notching your tag? Decent chance at a 6x6? There's give or take in all of it. There isn't the perfect general season elk zone. Can't have it all.

So, ultimately, the question you asked just doesn't make much sense. What are some of the best areas to hunt OTC in Idaho?

IT DEPENDS.

ivorytip
08-29-2012, 05:37 PM
haha well put hombre.. and your web site is pretty kick ass! ill be getting your mag soon. it shows you where the good units and places are but leaves the foot work up to the person. pretty dang perfect.

IdahoHombre
08-29-2012, 06:09 PM
Thanks, Ivory!