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WildassJoe
10-30-2012, 01:52 PM
HI folks... I no longer carry binoculars into the field... I carry a Canon SX10 camera and my hunting trips have turned into a photo safari... I can show my fellow hunters pictures of exactly what I saw and where the trails are and what time they showed up... it has changed my hunting for the better! no doubt no question the proof is in the pictures and not in what "I think I saw"... here are some pics from a couple of hunting adventures. Enjoy!
my advantages are clear...
1. The Canon SX series (The SX1, SX10, and SX20) uses standard AA batteries and I can shoot all day and have spares in my pack. (btw-you can't recharge camera batteries on a tree) LoL
2. uses standard SD cards... Available everywhere and cheap too!
3. Has a built in long zoom lens. Just point, zoom and shoot I do not have to carrying extra lenses into the field... this thing has it all!
4. after the hunt you can research and study exactly where the deer trails are and then adjust your hunting blind or stand position!
5. BONUS you can share the pics with hunting buddies and have indisputable proof of what you saw!

tdub24
10-30-2012, 02:20 PM
Great looking pics, I'm curious, at what distance were these pictures taken? How far can you "glass" with the camera? Some of the places I hunt you could glass anywhere from 1-5 miles and I don't see a camera being able to do that. I too carry a camera for when a quality picture presents itself, but binos and my spotting scope is what is needed to find game out my way.

Kevin Root
10-30-2012, 02:28 PM
There is some pretty cool technology out there. But as I've been reminded recently, be careful how much one shares unless you want to share it. With cell phones, and cameras out there these days that capture GPS locations and other information embedded in the photo and unless you clear that information or turn off the GPS location feature, one could possibly share a bit more than they wanted by sharing their honey hole too :).

Emailing someone a picture of that awesome buck or bull you killed or are planning to kill is cool but some information on those exact location sites is best kept under wraps unless you really want to share it all.....

Oh, nice pictures by the way WildassJoe. Photo safari hunting is pretty fun and I enjoy that myself.

BKC
10-30-2012, 06:44 PM
There is some pretty cool technology out there. But as I've been reminded recently, be careful how much one shares unless you want to share it. With cell phones, and cameras out there these days that capture GPS locations and other information embedded in the photo and unless you clear that information or turn off the GPS location feature, one could possibly share a bit more than they wanted by sharing their honey hole too :).

Emailing someone a picture of that awesome buck or bull you killed or are planning to kill is cool but some information on those exact location sites is best kept under wraps unless you really want to share it all.....

Oh, nice pictures by the way WildassJoe. Photo safari hunting is pretty fun and I enjoy that myself.

Kevin, I could not agree with you more. I always try to take pictures without a horizon in the view which may show some terrain, landmark, groups of trees, farm house, mountain top, etc... I never even thought about gps coordinates imbedded in pictures, I know I can sort pictures by location ( so the phone must know where I am taking the photo) so I will now have to turn that feature off. Thanks for the heads up.

Bitterroot Bulls
10-30-2012, 06:55 PM
I would definitely not recommend replacing your binoculars with a camera. I do definitely recommend supplementing one with the other.

That geotagging is a bugger. Child predators will cruise social networking sites and pull off GPS coordinates off of your kid pictures for the location of your house, their school, favorite park, etc. Scary stuff.

hardstalk
10-30-2012, 06:57 PM
This whole post has me a bit confused.. Are you promoting your photography by chance?

Grantbvfd
10-30-2012, 11:24 PM
My wife has a photography business and has some really nice cameras, that being said I could never substitute my binos for a camera. Cameras serve a purpose and glassing isn't one of them.

buckbull
10-31-2012, 12:36 PM
Why wouldn't you just digiscope with a nice spotting scope and camera/camera phone?? I also wouldn't say sd cards are "cheap".

WildassJoe
11-01-2012, 03:13 AM
Hi guys, I enjoy shooting deer with a camera, rifle and bow! Ok, lets go down the list of questions.
@tbub24- at what distance? some are about a hundred yards and others are across the canyon... the camera has a 20x optical zoom and im not sure the amount digital zoom... but it can reach out a long long way... and with my tripod and good light I can get a pretty good pic.. I used to take both binos and camera and find myself only using the camera a lot more... I pretty much phased out my binos.
@Kevin Root- That is a great point on GPS imbedded in pics... and I avoid that by taking "screen shots" of my hi res pics and then only posting those low res snapshots... avoids the whole gps thing.. great observation btw!!...
@Bitterroot Bulls- im only suggesting it because so many hunting adventures do not actually require binoculars. in my humble opinion, if you need binos to see the deer... then the deer are too far to shoot at anyway... might as well take some pics... and it depends on the terrain and hunting environment... some hunting is hundred yards max why the binos? now with that said lots of different types of hunting... there are hunts that have mountains to hike across and canyons to scale to then set up to make the shot... then there are desert areas with long distances... every case has its merits... I made my decision based on weight and hiking with extra gear that may or may not be needed... in Texas I have long sendaros to hunt.. or hi-lines and im sitting in a box stand and I drove up to it and loaded the stand with my equipment... in California total different story... it mountains and its a long hike back to camp. and every bit of gear weight matters... to each his own I guess... but for me I have ruled out large big binos and spotting scopes on California mountains... But on horseback... again another story... LOL
@Hardstalk- I place my on some pics because some people steal pics and repost them as their own... Now, as far as promoting my photography... well, sure, I guess I am! :) but in reality I am using the pics more as proof of why I dont take my binos... btw, is this bad? am I doing something wrong? Im new to forums so if its out of line please let me know... my intention was to be informative and give reasons why.
@Grantbvfd- I concur and agree... but I am one of those who gets crosseyed using binos and eventually headaches follow... spotting scopes are great but for me the extra weight hiking up and down mountains is why I no longer carry them into the field anymore... because the camera does the trick... just me i guess? I haven't taken my big binos in the field in several years and I dont miss them at all... I reach for the camera...

thank you guys for the comments... I hope I explained my reasons correctly and respectfully...

hardstalk
11-01-2012, 06:24 AM
Welcome to eastmans joe. Didnt mean to sound like a hater. Saw the copyrights. The bronx adress on your site, low post count and assumed you were soliciting. Sit down and soak it in my man. Lots of knowledge from all types around here. Promoting your photography or not keep the pics comin. If there is one thing we all have in common its the love for some horn porn. Dead or on hoof.

Also, sell your old binos and get the check book out, these boys will tell you where your bino headaches come from and how to alleviate it. Nice pics by the way.

Bitterroot Bulls
11-01-2012, 09:30 AM
@Bitterroot Bulls- im only suggesting it because so many hunting adventures do not actually require binoculars. in my humble opinion, if you need binos to see the deer... then the deer are too far to shoot at anyway... might as well take some pics... and it depends on the terrain and hunting environment... some hunting is hundred yards max why the binos? now with that said lots of different types of hunting... there are hunts that have mountains to hike across and canyons to scale to then set up to make the shot... then there are desert areas with long distances... every case has its merits... I made my decision based on weight and hiking with extra gear that may or may not be needed... in Texas I have long sendaros to hunt.. or hi-lines and im sitting in a box stand and I drove up to it and loaded the stand with my equipment... in California total different story... it mountains and its a long hike back to camp. and every bit of gear weight matters... to each his own I guess... but for me I have ruled out large big binos and spotting scopes on California mountains... But on horseback... again another story... LOL

Welcome to EF, WildassJoe.

I like optics ... a lot.

When I started using optics seriously for all of my hunting, my success rate when up astronomically. I now take a spotting scope and binoculars with me EVERY time I hunt. I will spend hours at a time glassing upwards of 5 to 10 miles away. Too far for a shot for sure, but that is where the "stalk" part of spot and stalk comes in. If you are getting headaches, there is a problem with your optic ... either the diopter setting is off, or the bins are out of collimation. Even if I was stand hunting with a maximum of 100 yards viewing distance (God help me) I would want at least binoculars to pick apart the cover at the edge of the viewing distance looking for an ear, eye, antler, etc.

If your camera is working for you ... good on ya, but as general advice for western hunters, I would say binoculars should be the FIRST equipment purchase after weapon.

Poke around the forum and check it out, Joe!

BOHNTR
11-01-2012, 09:31 PM
Welcome to EF, WildassJoe.

I like optics ... a lot.

When I started using optics seriously for all of my hunting, my success rate when up astronomically. I now take a spotting scope and binoculars with me EVERY time I hunt. I will spend hours at a time glassing upwards of 5 to 10 miles away. Too far for a shot for sure, but that is where the "stalk" part of spot and stalk comes in. If you are getting headaches, there is a problem with your optic ... either the diopter setting is off, or the bins are out of collimation. Even if I was stand hunting with a maximum of 100 yards viewing distance (God help me) I would want at least binoculars to pick apart the cover at the edge of the viewing distance looking for an ear, eye, antler, etc.

If your camera is working for you ... good on ya, but as general advice for western hunters, I would say binoculars should be the FIRST equipment purchase after weapon.

Poke around the forum and check it out, Joe!

+1 to BB's post. Additionally, quality binos and spotting scopes have saved me a lot of time and hiking, as you can better judge the quality of the animal you're looking at instead of having to hike closer......only to discover he's not the size you want to shoot.

WildassJoe
11-02-2012, 03:06 AM
HI Guys... I appreciate the welcomes... Thank you
@Hardstalk- All good, I'm a lonely hunter out here amigo! I'm always surrounded by none hunters and animal PETA extremists with Hollywood causes and well...I'm always surrounded... I am heading into the field on Nov 10th for the late season A32 LA/Ventura either sex deer Hunt.. only 250 tags and ( can you believe the long names?)
@Bitterroot Bulls & BOHNTR- I can agree with buying and having it... But, I'm just finding that I use the camera more often and im not missing the binos.. I'm probably worded my post incorrectly. LOL im not online much during the day... rarely.. most time I'm checking the hunting research and maps (and now) Eastmans forum real late at night and half asleep dreaming of big bucks and .. so I can say stupid things while meaning one thing and saying it badly... LOL...
I appreciate any tips and am willing to share what I observe... thank you for welcoming me to the forum...

ivorytip
11-02-2012, 04:22 PM
i have noticed some cameras can get some real good clarity of animals after the pic was taken, edit and zoom and all that. thats the nice part a bout a quality pair of optics though. hang on your chest and dont take batteries. plus those lenses for those cameras that take those far away pictures will buy you the best bino out there. im wanting to get into photography during my scouting trips and if you want a quality camera u need some quality cash. ended up upgrading my binos. neat idea though, just like any new idea..... diff things are hard to get use to. welcome to forum.

Musket Man
11-03-2012, 02:53 PM
I would almost rather leave my gun at home then my binoculars :)

ivorytip
11-03-2012, 03:06 PM
agreed musketman. ive forgot my binos on my lamp stand by front door so many times when in a rush to get to hills. allways a nightmare when i realize what ive done. now a pair stays in the truck at all times.

WildassJoe
11-17-2012, 04:18 PM
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Hi guys, here is a shot of two bucks fighting!! ne little buck has his leg knocked over his head and caught on his antler... Crazy cool huh? While most of you totally disagree with my observation and ultimate conclusion of camera vs binoculars... agree or disagree doesn't matter... My camera can show you exactly what a set of binoculars can not do and that is offer image evidence of what I saw... and this is why I made this post...
while I do have a set of binoculars in my pack... I am using my camera more effectively love having the image evidence after the hunt! I can show exactly where and what I am observing while i'm out there... if I didn't have my camera I would only be telling you what I observed... here I can show you what I saw...

crazy buck fight huh?
here is the YouTube video...
http://youtu.be/I0PrlpTQT8c

WildassJoe
11-17-2012, 04:31 PM
http://youtu.be/I0PrlpTQT8c
here is the video...

ivorytip
11-18-2012, 07:41 AM
wildassjoe.... great name btw! i think for the majority of us we are glassing animals up to and over a mile away. can ur camera zoom in effectivly at that range? if so that is pretty awesome and would be cool. good video.

Omarion33
04-03-2013, 03:47 AM
Nice to hear that we can replace with a camera i am a professional photographer and looking for a camera but i think this is the best idea to have a camera anyways thanks for this informative thread and have a nice day.............

packmule
04-05-2013, 11:55 PM
I'll use a cam with a combined 80x to keep from having to set up a spotting scope, but that's if I already feel its something not worth wasting time on or early in season

packmule
04-07-2013, 11:23 AM
I'll use a cam with a combined 80x to keep from having to set up a spotting scope, but that's if I already feel its something not worth wasting time on or early in season

Here's an example: 1400yds on a deer that wouldn't keep his head out of the sage. Once he lifted it snapped a quick pic to be able to kick around score in my head while looking for something else (with binocs)

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk114/davide_smith/day2016.jpg

arrowslinger21
04-07-2013, 11:31 PM
I have taken some heat at times over on the backcountry thread on this forum for being "dangerous" when it comes to going lightweight. Im not a big fan of taking shelters for the most part, I eat less than 1600 clories per day, and I am careful with how I ration water, however, in my humble opinion this is just plain stupid. A camera can not and will not ever reaplace my binos. I now have a Nikon dslr camera, but it could never hold a torch to what a competent person can do with some decent glass in hand. And to say an animal that can't be seen without binos is too far away to kill... Really? I have on several occasions killed animals that I couldn't see without binos. Just because you can't kill them that hour doesn't mean they won't bite the dust later in your hunt. Using a camera to your advantage is one thing, leaving your glass at home for a point and shoot camera is idiotic.