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xtreme
01-11-2013, 05:45 PM
I think I am going to need a horse or mule to ride in the back country. What makes the best back country riding animal? I plan to exployer the South San Juan and I cant walk that much.

Drelk
01-11-2013, 06:09 PM
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/12/5ysu5y4e.jpg

How bout one of these

Drelk
01-11-2013, 06:13 PM
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/12/jabymave.jpg

I prefer the long eared persuasion. If I was a cowboy I'd ride a horse. But sense I'm an elk hunter I ride a mule

In all honesty. Get a good whatever horse or mule. And enjoy

wapiti66
01-11-2013, 06:49 PM
Riding a bull elk looks a little bit wild. If he looked hard left/right he could sweep you off his back with his horns...or antlers.

jenbickel
01-11-2013, 07:44 PM
That elk picture is from here in sheridan! If I could, I would ride an elk. It's on my bucket list ;)

xtreme
01-11-2013, 08:09 PM
jen, do you see how close one of the points is to the riders eye. Riding an elk is not on my bucket list. Going to be tough enough to ride a mule

Eberle
01-11-2013, 08:14 PM
Extreme, Go with a mule. I've got horses & mules. Mules are better when it comes to backcountry imo. I've had horses spook in steep terrain. When they started sliding, made me really nervous. I ride my horses when we gather cattle & that is pretty much it these days. I've got a couple of brood mares I breed to my jack. Started raising mules 8 years ago & love them. We trail ride, hunt hogs & coons off our mules. When was you planning on exploring? I'm looking at heading out that way this summer (July or August) to ride in Unit 81. You are welcome to ride with us if you want. I've got 4 mules & my buddy has a pasture full! So we always have an extra with us.

RUTTIN
01-11-2013, 08:17 PM
A bombproof, well broke one!

xtreme
01-11-2013, 08:41 PM
Thats about the right time, I may just take you up on that trip. Thanks

Eberle
01-11-2013, 09:31 PM
You are welcome. I'll let you know when we decide to head that way.

BKC
01-12-2013, 06:47 AM
I think I am going to need a horse or mule to ride in the back country. What makes the best back country riding animal? I plan to exployer the South San Juan and I cant walk that much.

xtreme, I have had horses for a while and although they are great backcountry animals, I always wanted a big Mule. I finally bred my mare with a large jack and I got a nice john mule out of her in June. He is on his way to 17 hands and I was enjoying working with him but on Oct. 5th, the wheels came off. I found him limping in the pasture and this is what happened.50865087 5088This is a before and after picture of his front left elbow joint, just below the shoulder. He was scheduled to have his screws and plates out in late december but on christmas morning I found him only using three legs again. He cracked the bone just below his ankle, the long pastern bone. The vet said he just has too much weight on a leg that was weakened from the 1st cast and imobility. He was 370# at 6 1/2 months.5089He will be in a cast for 3-6 more weeks now till it heals and then thet will take out the original plates and screws. Then we will be back to a long rehad. I will probably give him an extra year before I start using him. So I guess if I was to have just one animal totally dedicated for hunting and packing, it would be a mule. But my life was a lot easier when I had just horses!:confused:

Ikeepitcold
01-12-2013, 08:26 AM
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/12/5ysu5y4e.jpg

How bout one of these


Now that's the way to scout! Awesome

Ikeepitcold
01-12-2013, 08:27 AM
That elk picture is from here in sheridan! If I could, I would ride an elk. It's on my bucket list ;)

Of corse it is Jen! Your nuts!! Lol

Kevin Root
01-12-2013, 09:07 AM
While it's not a horse, mule or even an elk, I've always thought a buffalo looked promising for traveling the backcountry. Below is part one of this inspiring instructional video that I found while searching the internet, "Guy On A Buffalo". While I'm fairly certian having looked very closely at this video the "Guy" shown is not Guy Eastman, the "Guy" in this video really seemed to be able to travel safley on the buffalo through the wild backcountry. :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJ4T9CQA0UM

packer58
01-12-2013, 09:20 PM
Hey...........That looks like a Ted Nugent impersonator !!!!

ivorytip
01-13-2013, 02:22 PM
good devil kevin! a guy at work showed me that guy on a buffalo video from you tube last year and it took most of the year to get that damn song out of my head, and now there it is a again.

RUTTIN
01-13-2013, 02:29 PM
Ha Ha makes me laugh every time I see that. In the movie my wife is the little papouse wrapped up. My father in law tells me stories of the buffalo tearing the trailors apart and bucking off the guy all the time. Great times!

ivorytip
01-13-2013, 03:14 PM
Ruttin, are u serious or pulling our chains? thats pretty cool.

Kevin Root
01-13-2013, 05:34 PM
good devil kevin! a guy at work showed me that guy on a buffalo video from you tube last year and it took most of the year to get that damn song out of my head, and now there it is a again.

I saw it last year posted on a hunting friend's Facebook wall and it made me laugh so hard I was crying for a good twenty minutes. The music makes it pop. I could not believe someone could saddle up and ride a buffalo. It does look like great times Ruttin.

Kevin Root
01-13-2013, 05:54 PM
Ha Ha makes me laugh every time I see that. In the movie my wife is the little papouse wrapped up. My father in law tells me stories of the buffalo tearing the trailors apart and bucking off the guy all the time. Great times!

I'm glad your wife made out ok in that river crossing. I have to say I did get a bit concerned when she fell off the buffalo and into the water. I'm glad Guy was able to pick her up and get her to safety.

RUTTIN
01-14-2013, 07:26 AM
A lot of it was a fake baby (obviously) and I always tell her I don't know if I would tell to many people you were in that movie. You really need to watch the whole thing if you haven't already. My sides hurt for days after watching it.

Kevin Root
01-14-2013, 08:28 AM
A lot of it was a fake baby (obviously) and I always tell her I don't know if I would tell to many people you were in that movie. You really need to watch the whole thing if you haven't already. My sides hurt for days after watching it.

Ruttin, I've watched the whole film a few times now, just finding it last year though. I found the 1978 "Buffalo Rider" original out there later and watched it but the version with "The Possum Posse" singing is the one I found first and it busted up my side. It is definitely a side buster for sure. I think your wife should be proud of being in that film. Tell her thanks from me. :)

Bitterroot Bulls
01-14-2013, 09:10 AM
I have ridden and packed horses and packed mules, but most guys that use riding mules seem to like them. I think it really comes down to the individual animal. They have a lot of personality.

One thing to remember about having horses or mules for hunting, is not going too big! When you start getting to 16 or 17 hands, it can be tough getting up on your horse in the snow with all your gear when your tired. ;)

xtreme
01-14-2013, 10:22 AM
True BB. I am even considering as small as 13.3 but most likely 14.2 and probably a horse. Horses seem to be more people friendly. Ruttin posted, bombproof, I took note of that. Drelk posted, whichever, and I took note of that. I have had both.

BKC
01-14-2013, 06:41 PM
Whatever you get, I would reccomend not having it shod. A good hoof that is barefoot should hold up just fine if you mainly use it for hunting, packing and summer time trail rides. It is just 1 more thing you have to worry about on the trail if they throw a shoe.

Bitterroot Bulls
01-14-2013, 08:14 PM
Whatever you get, I would reccomend not having it shod. A good hoof that is barefoot should hold up just fine if you mainly use it for hunting, packing and summer time trail rides. It is just 1 more thing you have to worry about on the trail if they throw a shoe.

I respectfully disagree here. I would recommend keeping up on shoes. Shoe 'em every 8 weeks. I like 'em sharp shod on the fronts too, for the ice.

BKC
01-14-2013, 08:31 PM
6 times a year, per horse, for a farrier can get pretty expensive. A good set of nippers and a rasp can keep my horses in top shape. My mustangs have never had a shoe. When I got my quarter horse, I pulled her shoes and keep her well trimmed. All three are solid. I guess it all depends on how you use them, what kind of terrain you use them on and if you can shoe or trim them yourself. I would guess there are more shod horses out there. BB, you are probably in the majority.

packer58
01-14-2013, 08:32 PM
One thing to remember about having horses or mules for hunting, is not going too big! When you start getting to 16 or 17 hands, it can be tough getting up on your horse in the snow with all your gear when your tired. ;)

Not only getting in the saddle for us shorter guys but finishing off the top pack becomes almost out of reach on animals 16 hands or better.

Eberle
01-14-2013, 09:09 PM
I've got a 50" standard jack that I breed to 15hh-15.2hh foundation bred quarter horses. My mules mature bewteen 14-15hh, most are 14.2hh & they are all stocky built. They can jump fences like deer, easy to get on & off. You don't have to worry about tree limbs in your face as much. You are right packer its hard to reach tying up your pack on tall mules.

Bitterroot Bulls
01-15-2013, 09:59 AM
BKC,

To each their own. As you know your horse will let you know if something is wrong. The mountain trails I ride are rock-on-rock. I am sure there are some hard-feet horses that would do OK, but I am not risking it, and I haven't had a problem. The additional traction from borium shoes up front is super nice during the late season.

As far as expense, it runs about 90 buck a change, which is an expense, but so is pasture, feed, vet, tack, trailer, etc. No matter what you get into a horse for, none of them are cheap.