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jmwyoming
02-28-2013, 08:49 PM
my brother and I are DIY hunters, we have no points for Colorado but want to hunt elk this year. preferably 1st season rifle. has anybody hunted unit 67 or 481? or any other units that we could hunt 1st season. we would really appreciate any help. thanks

Old Hunter
03-01-2013, 08:47 AM
I doubt you can get a 1st rifle tag in 481 with no points.

Hoytshooter1977
03-03-2013, 01:05 PM
My daughter drew 1st season rifle bull last year with no points. If you don't mind crowds it's easy to draw but there were way to many people for us. Vehicles 4 wheelers and jeeps everywhere. Did see a few elk but no legal bulls and that was way off the road

xtreme
03-03-2013, 01:57 PM
You might get drawn for unit 67 first season elk. I hunted deer there last year 3rd season. Got a 180.5 and saw better. I doubt the elk I saw would be at lower altitude 1st season. I was in that unit 3 or four times scouting and I doubt I was ever where I would have hunted elk, anyway I like the unit except for private land. I dont think that would be much of a factor hunting elk 1st season. I would hunt elk in that unit and probably high. I did see a large herd of elk in third season.

Old Hunter
03-03-2013, 07:15 PM
My daughter drew 1st season rifle bull last year with no points. If you don't mind crowds it's easy to draw but there were way to many people for us. Vehicles 4 wheelers and jeeps everywhere. Did see a few elk but no legal bulls and that was way off the road

Not much help without telling him the unit.

jmwyoming
03-03-2013, 09:05 PM
what can you tell me about units 41 411 52 421 521 42. thanks. john

Old Hunter
03-04-2013, 08:31 AM
Are you looking at the stats on the DOW web site, or is this your research here?

tdub24
03-04-2013, 09:10 AM
Are you looking at the stats on the DOW web site, or is this your research here?

My thoughts exactly!

jmwyoming
03-05-2013, 05:44 PM
no this is not my research. I have been going over the cdow stats called the hunt planners, talked to other friends here that hunt Colorado, but none have hunted these units.

packmule
03-12-2013, 11:20 AM
67 can be a good hunt if you happen to draw. You really don't have to get way off the beaten path to find them but you do need to be patient. I've noticed those elk are quick to head to private land, but later in the season when folks start clearing out they will drift back onto public land until the next wave of folks roll in.

jmwyoming
03-13-2013, 07:16 PM
I talked to a friend tonight that said while he was hunting mulies in 67 he saw quite a few elk around the Pauline creek area. he said 67 gets pretty packed in the 1st season. thx for sharing your info with me it really helps.

packmule
03-13-2013, 07:46 PM
You never really know where you'll find them off that cut-through rd. Our group in 2011 went 4 for 4 hunting back in that general area during 2nd. The past few years though being there before 2nd and as late at end of 3rd, I'll say it isn't uncommon to find them down under 9k' in the quakies in the most random places further North.

jmwyoming
03-14-2013, 07:32 PM
what is the average class bull you could expect to shoot in 67? Does it really get a lot of hunters or do the mainly stay close to the roads? thx for your response I really do appreciate it. john

packmule
03-14-2013, 10:12 PM
You'll see people but it's not what I would call overcrowded. Avg size would still be in the legal-200s, which isnt bad considering the PPs required, but you could stumble into one in the low-mid 3s.

packmule
03-14-2013, 10:23 PM
Here's one I found from last year that got close enough for a photo-op.

http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/g328/newbie936/1351881391.jpg

http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/g328/newbie936/1351881385.jpg

http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/g328/newbie936/1351881382.jpg

wagpual
03-15-2013, 03:10 AM
oh,really?cool! from brand wagpual (http://www.wagpual.com/) !

jmwyoming
03-16-2013, 05:17 PM
thx for the pics of bull. have u ever hunted 66? thx for the helpful info. john

nwwa huner
03-17-2013, 09:02 AM
I hear that 66 is a little better than 67. We hunted 67 in 08 and were 1 for 2. I killed a nice 290 ish 6 point which is average for the top end. They may reach the 315 range but mostly 5-6 points or smaller. With I think a 35-45% success range. We only saw one bull, heard 2 bugle and saw 10 cows. We hunted the timber and luckily glassed a 6 point before the season so knew where to start.

xtreme
03-17-2013, 05:36 PM
I have been it unit 67 four times in the last year. I was looking for deer. Pauline Creek had fresh elk sign but I didnt see an elk there. I did find elk west of hwy 114 I believe on rock creek trail and the 3rd season there was a large herd about 1mile fron 114 on the same trail. I dont have an opinion about 67 vs 66, but I think I could find elk in 67 second season.

packmule
03-19-2013, 11:34 AM
You get about the same thing with 66 & 67.

jmwyoming
03-20-2013, 06:21 PM
thx for the help. we applied on Monday. 481,66,67,and 500 in that order. thx again, john

Old Hunter
03-23-2013, 01:32 PM
You didn't believe me? You have really bad odds for 481. This happened last year.

For 1st rifle season you have 70 tags. You had 134 hunters apply for the tags. 49 hunters had 1 point or more. That left 11 tags for those with no points. 89 hunters applied for those 11 tags. Really bad odds.

Now you're left with 66 as a 2nd pick. The odds are much worse than 481 as a 1st pick.

Did you know all this?

Old Hunter
03-29-2013, 10:12 AM
Maybe you'll get lucky. Let us know if you get the tag.