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N.Y.ArcheryMadMan
03-20-2013, 04:57 PM
What State has Low Taxes, Low Cost of Living, Reasonable Cost for Purchasing Property, and Good Hunting and Fishing????

buckbull
03-20-2013, 06:20 PM
Florida in my opinion has the best fishing with both inshore and offshore opportunities abound. I don't think they have income taxes either and right now you can get foreclosure properties super cheap. Florida is a pretty easy choice as far as fishing unless you think you can't live without walley, northerns, and muskies, etc... Not really sure about what state for hunting but I think Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, and Colorado provide a reasonable amount of opportunity for hunting. Wyoming and maybe others do not have income taxes. Property is getting more and more expensive but thats the nice thing about public land; you already have access to land to hunt.

Colorado Cowboy
03-20-2013, 06:54 PM
One thing to remember is that things change. When I picked Colorado 18 years ago, things were a little different. Taxes have gone up, cost of living also. Property was reasonably cheap and still is. Good hunting & fishing where I am too. And of course theres the crap that the state legislature just passed on gun control.

I think one state that fits a lot of what you are looking for is Texas believe it or not. One thing is that property and taxes are pretty cheap compatatively speaking. Pretty good hunting, even if it's almost all on private land that you have to get a lease for. Good fishing too. Bad thing as far as I am concerned is the weather...a lot of hot, humid stuff.

If I was doing this over again (been retired 13 years) it would be: #1 Lander, Wyoming; #2 SW Colorado (where I live now); #3 Stevensville, Montana and then I'd really take a hard look at living in Alaska from May thru October and Arizona the rest of the time (or maybe winter in Belize or Costa Rica). I do love it here in SW Colo, real rural (only about 25,000 in the whole county) and lots of great hunting and fishing.

Eberle
03-20-2013, 07:50 PM
Everyone's definition of cheap is a little different. In South-Central OK where I live you can buy land for $700-$900 per acre. We have whitetail in every patch of woods around here. Lots of turkey & unfortunately wild hogs, fishing is really good as well. We have awesome catfish, bass, crappie in every little water hole around. You can build a house for about $75 a square ft. If I was looking for a place to retire though, I would go to Wyoming!

AKaviator
03-20-2013, 08:06 PM
Wait a minute Eberle, your'e movin' up here aren't ya? We need some extra rednecks and you'll love the hunting and fishing!! No income tax, we give ya a oil dividend. you can take 2 grizzlies per year in some areas, 5 black bears (10 if you work it right) and no closed season or bag limit on caribou in some places! Not a feral hog to be seen!
Bring your 7mag and we'll find a nice bull moose too!

Ikeepitcold
03-20-2013, 08:28 PM
Have you looked into ID? Most if what your looking for can be found there.

EBOLAVIRS
03-21-2013, 01:24 AM
Idaho seems to be where a lot of people are heading from my neck of the woods. Wyoming is nice but most of the state has brutal winters and not many trees. Ocifer Idaho I think is the name of the area a lot of folks I know are heading. Like the other poster mentioned try to look in the future, Colorado is as liberal as California now which usually translates into adverse gun laws and high taxes. States that don't appear to be heading that direction are probably going to be your most retirement friendly states. Montana is trending differently lately too....I will be in your boat in a few years and have been bouncing the same thoughts around in my head.

Colorado Cowboy
03-21-2013, 07:08 AM
Like the other poster mentioned try to look in the future, Colorado is as liberal as California now which usually translates into adverse gun laws and high taxes. States that don't appear to be heading that direction are probably going to be your most retirement friendly states. Montana is trending differently lately too....I will be in your boat in a few years and have been bouncing the same thoughts around in my head.

Seems like the whole country is heading that way!!!!!:(

Kevin Root
03-21-2013, 08:39 AM
Seems like the whole country is heading that way!!!!!:(

Agreed, I think more states are heading that direction than folks realize and many folks are turning a blind eye thinking it's not going to happen in their state just because they seem pretty safe today in their state's politics. That being said, although it's not listed in the original posters criteria, when my wife and I do decide to retire we will want to live in a more conservative state. We realize that's not always certain for it to remain that way. We do have a bit bigger wish list on picking a retirement state to live in than what is listed in the OP.

20 years ago my wife and I were looking to move to Colorado. We looked at homes with a Realtor and were placing offers on some of them. My company who I still work for today had a manufacturing plant in Colorado Springs and I was thinking of transferring there. Long story short, we did not move. More so for family reasons but our manufacturing ended up leaving Colorado and our overall plans changed off that path.

I know I like the mountains so wherever I'll be has to have some of them close by for me. Most of the hunting and my type of mountain trout fishing is there and most of the hunting outdoor writers I grew up reading as a kid have moved to Wyoming or live there so I'm surly pulled there. I like Montana and Idaho too. Alaska, is an awesome frontier still but even though my wife is from Michigan I think the Alaska winters are something we are both concerned about.

I'm not sure where we will be yet. The plan is in motion still for us. Part of me is just happy to make to most of each day on the path in time that I have now. Part of me says I need to be planning a bit harder on where to retire to help make something happen more on the lines of the quote,

“Do not go where the path may lead, go instead where there is no path and leave a trail.”
― Ralph Waldo Emerson

ssliger
03-21-2013, 10:07 AM
I see no reason to ever leave Wyoming, sure it's windy, and our winters can be harsh. But that keeps most people away and a low population and wide open spaces are priceless. You can always winter down south.

Eberle
03-21-2013, 03:03 PM
Wait a minute Eberle, your'e movin' up here aren't ya? We need some extra rednecks and you'll love the hunting and fishing!! No income tax, we give ya a oil dividend. you can take 2 grizzlies per year in some areas, 5 black bears (10 if you work it right) and no closed season or bag limit on caribou in some places! Not a feral hog to be seen!
Bring your 7mag and we'll find a nice bull moose too!

I'm not sure I'm tuff enough to handle the winter! Everything else sounds good though. When I worked for ConocoPhilips I seroiusly considered going to work on the North Slope.

N.Y.ArcheryMadMan
03-21-2013, 05:20 PM
I Really Appreciate All the Advise and Locations ... Alot if not All of these Post where Very Thought Out and Means Alot to me Thank You To All... It is going to be awhile before I can Retire also. Just triing to do some early research... And YES with Some of the New and Future New Gun Laws. I want to leave my Options open. I live here In Upstate NY and we just got Wake with some really Crazy Laws..... I was Born and raised in the sticks. If we weren't in the Woods. We where on the Water Fishing.... I just love the outdoors always wished I could of made a living at it. But there was never any insurance packages or retirement. Thank's Again To Everyone....

BKC
03-21-2013, 07:16 PM
I see no reason to ever leave Wyoming, sure it's windy, and our winters can be harsh. But that keeps most people away and a low population and wide open spaces are priceless. You can always winter down south.

I would rather deal with Wyoming winters than Colorado Liberals. Dayton, Wy next to the Bighorns and out of the wind!

Shane13
03-21-2013, 08:35 PM
We'd be happy to have you in Texas as long as you don't come here and start voting for the same kinds of politicians that create the mess that you're looking to get away from in NY. :)

Colorado Cowboy
03-21-2013, 09:12 PM
I Really Appreciate All the Advise and Locations ... Alot if not All of these Post where Very Thought Out and Means Alot to me Thank You To All... It is going to be awhile before I can Retire also. Just triing to do some early research... And YES with Some of the New and Future New Gun Laws. I want to leave my Options open. I live here In Upstate NY and we just got Wake with some really Crazy Laws..... I was Born and raised in the sticks. If we weren't in the Woods. We where on the Water Fishing.... I just love the outdoors always wished I could of made a living at it. But there was never any insurance packages or retirement. Thank's Again To Everyone....

One piece of advice I have is start looking as soon as possible. My wife and I spent 20 years looking while I was working. We visited 13 states on vacations, all the time looking for potential retirement areas. Sure prices change, areas grow and economies expand, but we looked for the enviornment first. Weather, scenery, hunting fishing and other recreation were tops on our list. Hope you find what you are looking for, good luck.

packmule
03-21-2013, 11:13 PM
We'd be happy to have you in Texas as long as you don't come here and start voting for the same kinds of politicians that create the mess that you're looking to get away from in NY. :)

Yessir!

Where I call home is around the Lufkin/Nacogdoches area. The cost of living is low, land is reasonably priced and thank goodness for timber & ag exemptions on property. From Lufkin you're within an hour (20m from 1) of 2 of the largest lakes in the state and 1:45 from fishing saltwater. The hunting isn't too bad, plenty of deer & a nonstop battle with hogs. Most of it is done on private land, but finding a decent lease to hunt with an MLD season running from Oct-Feb isn't a hard find. You get to shoot off permits instead of your tags and go use your tags elsewhere. If not wanting a lease and want to only hunt public land, there's a total of about 735,000 acres of heavily wooded national forest within a short drive. The area is also super conservative and pretty much a Bible Belt. I'll admit the weather is iffy because of the humidity, the summers feel like you're in a pressure cooker and the winters are usually mild.

BOHNTR
03-22-2013, 07:47 AM
Forbes recently ranked the top 10 states to retire in based on cost of living and tax relief. The top three were Alaska, Nevada, and Wyoming. All three are retirement friendly and offer exceptional outdoor recreation for the hunter and fishermen.

Aught6Fan
03-22-2013, 06:50 PM
One piece of advice I have is start looking as soon as possible.

Sound wisdom, CC. I started a If You Could Live Anywhere thread in the General Hunting section with this kind of in mind. Interesting stuff.

They say great minds think alike, NYAMM! We're both thinking about retirement, not sure what that says about us. ;)

Edelweiss
03-23-2013, 03:42 AM
This country is going to hades in a basket. The parts that used to be ok, are now crap and the good parts are at risk of becoming bad.

I am six months from retiring from the military and am scared to death, we want to move to back to Alaska, back to Montana or back to Wyoming.

The problem with retiring some place like Utah or Arizona where life is based on preference points is that you may never get to hunt, unless you buy land owner tags, or have a Texas deer lease.

As much as a lot of Texans rub me the wrong way, landowners get to manage wildlife the way they see fit. And that's a pretty nice option if you have the means to aquire 100 acres or more.

N.Y.ArcheryMadMan
03-26-2013, 07:44 PM
Does anyone have any insight on maybe Kentucky, West Virginia, or Missouri? As Retirement States...

Muleys 24/7
03-27-2013, 02:41 PM
Does anyone have any insight on maybe Kentucky, West Virginia, or Missouri? As Retirement States...

The only problem with those states is they're not out west.:)

Edelweiss
03-31-2013, 01:57 AM
The only problem with those states is they're not out west.:)


Not the only problem, English isn't the first language there. I think it's called Hee-Haw.

Ikeepitcold
03-31-2013, 09:21 AM
Not the only problem, English isn't the first language there. I think it's called Hee-Haw.

Y'all c'mon back now ya hear!

Matthoek21
03-31-2013, 10:34 AM
Easy now y'all. Take it easy on us that take with a drawl. MO is an awesome state as long as you're in between. If you know what I mean. Lots of public ground with good hunting and fishing. Lots of big whitetails. Trout fishing (close to the White River). Turkey hunting can be awesome. Plenty of nice people to. And there isnt a more remote area than parts of the Ozark Mountains. Kentucky would prolly be another good option.

hoshour
03-31-2013, 08:54 PM
States with no income tax
• Alaska
• Florida
• Nevada
• South Dakota
• Texas
• Washington
• Wyoming

States that only tax some investment income:
• Tennessee
• New Hampshire

Other states that have both Republican governors and legislatures are realizing that they are losing businesses and economic growth to states with no income tax. So, they're considering lowering or getting rid of their state income tax. Most likely, they'll raise other taxes like sales taxes and property taxes to offset the revenue loss. Other states, like California, have no hope of even thinking like that.

The movement of people and businesses out of CA to WA, OR, AZ, CO, and TX that started many years ago and boosted both real estate prices and liberalism is going to spread as a second wave to UT, ID, MT, and NM. Like it or not, get ready. AK is still too cold and remote for most people.

packmule
03-31-2013, 09:20 PM
Southern Louisiana is an option. You can walk around buck naked with a beer in your hand and a gun in the other and it be considered "fitting in". :D

N.Y.ArcheryMadMan
04-01-2013, 05:04 PM
Nice....:D