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velvetfvr
03-26-2013, 08:59 PM
Ok here is my dilemma, football for next year starts April 15th. I am a avid bowhunter and haven't killed a animal yet. And my grandpa had cancer again for the third time and who knows how long he will have left. I want him to see me kill my first deer/pronghorn with a bow. So my dilemma is if I do football, hunting is cut down alot but won't know what I draw until June. I want to try and play football but its one week football, next no football. So I need your guys input. All of it is appreciated. I just can't figure out what to do!


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velvetfvr
03-26-2013, 09:01 PM
Also I have 3 ap classes next year so time is kinda strapped.


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tdcour
03-26-2013, 09:16 PM
South Dakota has some good early Pronghorn seasons, but I think they start about the time your "two-a-days" will start. Long drive from NV, but all the archery tags for pronghorn or deer are OTC. Under 300 for a tag. Long way from NV though. Our deer doesn't start until late Sept. but runs solid through December.

velvetfvr
03-26-2013, 09:23 PM
Yeah. I will tell coach but its so hard. And to make it worse school starts August 14th or something and deer and antelope start the 1st and 10th. But we have summer practice.


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BigSurArcher
03-26-2013, 09:40 PM
You will have the rest of your life to hunt, HS football isn't around very long. I think Gramps would enjoy seeing you play in a bunch of games just as much as he would love to see you harvest your first archery animal. And who knows... apply close to home, and more then likely you can do both. Playing football and hunting were my life from 4th grade until my senior year in HS, and I decided not to play in college in order to hunt more. I regret that decision as I know I could still play. Not to mention, playing football really helps your dedication to hunting. Learning how to train, be motivated, face adversity, and deal with physicality are all things that you will keep with you long after you stop playing. I remember showing up to practice right after packing a buck out one time, I had blood all over the back of my shirt from the pack out and by the end of practice it had mixed with my sweat under the pads and there was blood all the way down into my socks! You can have the best of both worlds, it's all about time management and dedication.

Ikeepitcold
03-26-2013, 11:05 PM
Very well said BSA.

I would assume grand is not able to get around much. So he won't be with you when you take your animal. Although maybe with a Pronghorn if it was close to a road where he could watch with a scope or binos in the AC of the pick up. I would have to agree. He is proud of you now for your accomplishments and would love to continue to watch you play ball. I've been in this very predicament. I was elk hunting in 06 when my uncle that was very close to me and was in the hospital when I left and he told me to go hunt and he passed 2 days into my hunt. My family told me to stay and hunt because that's what he would have wanted. From that day on I have used that as motivation and I always think of him while hunting. I think grand would want you to do what makes you happy.
I say put in for the hunts you want. Play football. Spend as much time as you can with him. It will play out the way it is ment to. Why give any of it up? Do it all you can make it happen. You also have plenty of friends that will help you hunt if your time is limited.

velvetfvr
03-26-2013, 11:10 PM
Very well said BSA.

I would assume grand is not able to get around much. So he won't be with you when you take your animal. Although maybe with a Pronghorn if it was close to a road where he could watch with a scope or binos in the AC of the pick up. I would have to agree. He is proud of you now for your accomplishments and would love to continue to watch you play ball. I've been in this very predicament. I was elk hunting in 06 when my uncle that was very close to me and was in the hospital when I left and he told me to go hunt and he passed 2 days into my hunt. My family told me to stay and hunt because that's what he would have wanted. From that day on I have used that as motivation and I always think of him while hunting. I think grand would want you to do what makes you happy.
I say put in for the hunts you want. Play football. Spend as much time as you can with him. It will play out the way it is ment to. Why give any of it up? Do it all you can make it happen. You also have plenty of friends that will help you hunt if your time is limited.

Yeah. I think I could get a antelope. Just so hard. He goes with us deer hunting since we have a ranger that can get him within a certain distance to watch through the scope. Man this is tough.


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Ikeepitcold
03-26-2013, 11:11 PM
I would think antelope would be much easier then deer for him to watch.

velvetfvr
03-26-2013, 11:12 PM
I would think antelope would be much easier then deer for him to watch.

Yeah. Guess this would be the one year I couldn't hold out for a big buck.


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Drhorsepower
03-26-2013, 11:22 PM
I will give you same advice I did last time you asked this question. Do what your heart is telling you to do.

I was in same boat as you in high school, I chose hunting. I couldn't give both 100% and I don't like doing things that way. I do not regret it one bit but that's ME! Everyone is different. I never wonder what if... If you think you might ask yourself that question then you need to follow your gut and have no regrets whatever path you choose to follow.

Don't worry, if you do choose football we will rub it in your face with successful photos this fall;)

MSUcat61
03-27-2013, 12:41 AM
What did you end up deciding last year?

I know football was really important to me and I'm going to reiterate what BSA said. You only get one shot to play football in your life, but you can hunt forever. I guess it depends on how much you like playing and what football means to you.

Just a little personal experience, I played all through high school and even played five years of college football and I still had time to hunt. Not as much time as I would have liked (ie I couldn't do many backcountry, extended trips), but I still hunted hard with the time I had and still shot plenty of animals. In high school it was a little different since rifle season tended to take place mostly after the football season but I still made it out archery hunting too. One day I made it out after practice and was full draw on mule deer buck before dusk. I never shot because I didn't feel comfortable with the shot but I still made it out. Your games will be on Friday nights and you'll have the whole weekend to hunt right? College was quite a bit harder to make time but we always had Sunday mornings and Mondays off. I always made sure to schedule my classes so I had Monday afternoons off in the fall so I could at least get an afternoon hunt in every Monday. I started focusing the tags I put in for around opportunity for high success (antelope units with high numbers for example). One time after an away game, our plane got in past two in the morning, took a quick nap, drove several hours to the hunting area just past sunrise, glassed over a few herds of antelope, made a stalk, shot my first antelope and was back in town by noon, just in time of Sunday workout and film. It wasn't a monster by any means, but I shot nice buck in the midst of a busy schedule. I did stunts like this a lot through college. I didn't have a lot of time, but I still made time. I guess my point is that if you really want to do both, it is definitely taxing, but you can do it. And if you can't do both, you're gonna have to consider how important playing ball is to you. I missed a lot of hunting opportunities because of football, but I really wanted to do both.

Another thing to consider is to apply for later season hunts or switch weapons for a year.

dhershberger
03-27-2013, 10:36 AM
Don't know about yall but every sport comes second to hunting for me. I am an avid basketball player and I played varsity ball in freshmen and sophmore year but as I progressed and moved up the ranks I had to give it more time and it definately cut down my hunting time. So I decided to stop basketball and just hunt. I now lift run and shoot everyday and am in better shape then I ever was while playing basketball. Hunting is a part of who I am and I would much rather be high on a mountain ridge then be down in the city on a court. Its your decision though so just go with your gut.

velvetfvr
03-27-2013, 03:31 PM
What did you end up deciding last year?

I know football was really important to me and I'm going to reiterate what BSA said. You only get one shot to play football in your life, but you can hunt forever. I guess it depends on how much you like playing and what football means to you.

Just a little personal experience, I played all through high school and even played five years of college football and I still had time to hunt. Not as much time as I would have liked (ie I couldn't do many backcountry, extended trips), but I still hunted hard with the time I had and still shot plenty of animals. In high school it was a little different since rifle season tended to take place mostly after the football season but I still made it out archery hunting too. One day I made it out after practice and was full draw on mule deer buck before dusk. I never shot because I didn't feel comfortable with the shot but I still made it out. Your games will be on Friday nights and you'll have the whole weekend to hunt right? College was quite a bit harder to make time but we always had Sunday mornings and Mondays off. I always made sure to schedule my classes so I had Monday afternoons off in the fall so I could at least get an afternoon hunt in every Monday. I started focusing the tags I put in for around opportunity for high success (antelope units with high numbers for example). One time after an away game, our plane got in past two in the morning, took a quick nap, drove several hours to the hunting area just past sunrise, glassed over a few herds of antelope, made a stalk, shot my first antelope and was back in town by noon, just in time of Sunday workout and film. It wasn't a monster by any means, but I shot nice buck in the midst of a busy schedule. I did stunts like this a lot through college. I didn't have a lot of time, but I still made time. I guess my point is that if you really want to do both, it is definitely taxing, but you can do it. And if you can't do both, you're gonna have to consider how important playing ball is to you. I missed a lot of hunting opportunities because of football, but I really wanted to do both.

Another thing to consider is to apply for later season hunts or switch weapons for a year.

I asked this last fall after I couldn't play. But the issue is now of my grandpas health. Honestly I know I can get one down but its hard trying to teach a rifle hunting family archery. I think I can do both, but then its going to result in a semi solo hunt and I don't know if my parents would let me.

And about switching, I shot my only buck with a rifle:
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And hated the feeling of shooting with a rifle. I just kinda felt like I cheated and being a straight A model student, I don't like to cheat. So I have committed only to archery. Even the stalks I have been on for my heart pumping more.

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Fink
03-27-2013, 05:47 PM
If you don't play ball, you'll miss playing ball when you get older. If you don't hunt, you'll wonder about all hunts you missed out on when you were playing sports.

For me, it was a no brainer.. I never even wanted to play little league sports, because it got in the way with hunting, and got in the way of the quality time I got to spend with my dad and grandpa. That being said, my brother wrestled all through school, and that was quality time that my dad and grandpa got to spend with him as well. I guess what I'm saying doesn't really help you out, other than the fact that as long as you are doing what you love to do, gramps is gonna love it for you, and is gonna take pride in watching you do it.

But, if it were me? I'd hunt. Screw a buncha organized sports!

Eberle
03-27-2013, 08:41 PM
Velvet,

You have the rest of your life to hunt! I know time seems like it stands still at your age. I'm having my 20 year class reunion this year & it has went quick. I find myself sitting in the stands watching my children play & loving every minute of it. I still wish I could go back & play again. But we hunt & fish as a family & make time to do it. You can balance two schedules & make it work. Just don't have any regrets whatever you decide to do. I'll extend an offer for you, standing invite. Archery season opens here in Oklahoma October 1st & closes Jan. 15th. Pick a date & come out, I'll put you on a whitetail on my land. If my buddy Mike (with Full Draw Adventures) is not on the road filming. I'll have him film your first archery whitetail kill on video. Edit, produce & send it home with you to show Grandpa.

Good luck!

Ikeepitcold
03-27-2013, 08:47 PM
Velvet,

You have the rest of your life to hunt! I know time seems like it stands still at your age. I'm having my 20 year class reunion this year & it has went quick. I find myself sitting in the stands watching my children play & loving every minute of it. I still wish I could go back & play again. But we hunt & fish as a family & make time to do it. You can balance two schedules & make it work. Just don't have any regrets whatever you decide to do. I'll extend an offer for you, standing invite. Archery season opens here in Oklahoma October 1st & closes Jan. 15th. Pick a date & come out, I'll put you on a whitetail on my land. If my buddy Mike (with Full Draw Adventures) is not on the road filming. I'll have him film your first archery whitetail kill on video. Edit, produce & send it home with you to show Grandpa.

Good luck!

Wow VF you need to do this! It takes a real hunter to offer you a chance of a lifetime like Eberle has just done.
Cudos to you Eberle to make such a generous offer.

velvetfvr
03-27-2013, 09:41 PM
Velvet,

You have the rest of your life to hunt! I know time seems like it stands still at your age. I'm having my 20 year class reunion this year & it has went quick. I find myself sitting in the stands watching my children play & loving every minute of it. I still wish I could go back & play again. But we hunt & fish as a family & make time to do it. You can balance two schedules & make it work. Just don't have any regrets whatever you decide to do. I'll extend an offer for you, standing invite. Archery season opens here in Oklahoma October 1st & closes Jan. 15th. Pick a date & come out, I'll put you on a whitetail on my land. If my buddy Mike (with Full Draw Adventures) is not on the road filming. I'll have him film your first archery whitetail kill on video. Edit, produce & send it home with you to show Grandpa.

Good luck!

Thanks and I would love to come. Unfortunately, I don't think I can do this. I don't think my parents would let me go on this fantastic opportunity and then with school I am bunched up. I have 1 week in October off but I don't think I can accept. I would love too but I don't think it's something I can do. I will send a pm.


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MSUcat61
03-28-2013, 12:58 AM
Velvet,

You have the rest of your life to hunt! I know time seems like it stands still at your age. I'm having my 20 year class reunion this year & it has went quick. I find myself sitting in the stands watching my children play & loving every minute of it. I still wish I could go back & play again. But we hunt & fish as a family & make time to do it. You can balance two schedules & make it work. Just don't have any regrets whatever you decide to do. I'll extend an offer for you, standing invite. Archery season opens here in Oklahoma October 1st & closes Jan. 15th. Pick a date & come out, I'll put you on a whitetail on my land. If my buddy Mike (with Full Draw Adventures) is not on the road filming. I'll have him film your first archery whitetail kill on video. Edit, produce & send it home with you to show Grandpa.

Good luck!

Awesomeness continues to abound on this forum... very cool.

Eberle
03-28-2013, 09:39 AM
Thanks, He seems like a good kid!

Eberle
03-28-2013, 09:40 AM
IKC,

Thanks, I try to help out the kids when I can! They are our future!


Velvet,

Your welcome, you have an open invite should you change your mind.

P.S. Your parents are invited also!

Ikeepitcold
03-28-2013, 09:42 AM
Very cool! This is what real hunters are like.

sjsmallfield
03-29-2013, 06:23 PM
That is one hell of an offer Eberle. We could use more people out there like you.

Velvet, you really need to talk to your family about this trip. These chances don't come along very often. Good luck!

velvetfvr
03-29-2013, 06:50 PM
Here I would like to update. I am doing both. My mom told me she doesn't think he physically wants to be there but to see me kill one. And there will be a few days between first day of school and when football gets serious I can bowhunt. Thanks for all the help. It helps I can drive.


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velvetfvr
03-29-2013, 06:52 PM
IKC,

Thanks, I try to help out the kids when I can! They are our future!


Velvet,

Your welcome, you have an open invite should you change your mind.

P.S. Your parents are invited also!

Thanks! If anything changes I will PM you.


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Fink
03-29-2013, 09:33 PM
Eberle, you are the man.

Backcountry Stalker
03-31-2013, 02:32 AM
Eberle, you are the man.

x2! Yes, indeed very cool jesture

Eberle
03-31-2013, 09:44 PM
Thanks guys. My Grandpa always told me if you are blessed be a blessing!