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Work2hunt
04-09-2013, 06:12 AM
I was just given a .280 from my grandpa. I figured I would try reloading ammo for it. Anyone shoot a Remington 280 and want to share your load work-ups?

AKaviator
04-09-2013, 02:30 PM
I'd love to help but don't load for .280. I'd like to have one though, it's a fine caliber. Tell us about the rifle.

Edelweiss
04-09-2013, 11:32 PM
I have a Howa 1500 I rebarreled to 280 Ackley Improved. I shoot 160 grain Nosler Accubonds.

Try H4831SC and the same Accubonds. Take a look at the Nosler website for loading data, it's free.

Colorado Cowboy
04-10-2013, 06:56 AM
Try H4831SC

This is really a great powder, I use it in my 25-06. From what I've read, the SC means "short cut". It sure performs better for me than the regular H4831:cool:

Work2hunt
04-10-2013, 07:24 AM
I've shot the gun a few times using some Remington bullets. Nothing fancy just shooting at paper. I know at 150 yds I was still holding less than 1.5 groups...not great, but I figured not bad for the rest and ammo I was using. The gun is a Remington 700 BDL DM SS. I really like the gun I just know trying to find factory ammo for this gun seems real hard to get even when everyone is not buying everything off the shelves.

I'm hoping to make it to the local reloading shop this weekend to pick up my supplies. Just have to figure out where I want to start. I'm thinking in the 140 to 160 gr bullet area.

I know I have some IMR4831 on the shelf. How does this compare to H4831?

Colorado Cowboy
04-10-2013, 08:01 AM
Start very conservatively as the IMR powders (no matter which one) are a lot hotter than the old ones that were numbered the same. The H4831 SC burns differently that either IMR4831 or H4831.

Edelweiss
04-10-2013, 03:21 PM
CC is right, never mix loading data even if you think they are close. Especially if you are new to reloading.

I like heavier bullets, I wish Nosler would make a 180 .284 Accubond.

Muzz
05-01-2013, 09:29 PM
I have a stainless rem 280 and love it!!! 140 grain accubonds over 58.3 grains of R19.
Shoots just under half inch groups @ 3100 fps . Great caliber and I wouldn't hesitate to shoot at anything with this gun.

Work2hunt
05-02-2013, 10:25 AM
I have a stainless rem 280 and love it!!! 140 grain accubonds over 58.3 grains of R19.
Shoots just under half inch groups @ 3100 fps . Great caliber and I wouldn't hesitate to shoot at anything with this gun.

Thanks for the info. I have actually been working some loads up for this exact combo you are speaking of. I'm at about 56.9 grains right now. I think the Nosler reloading book I have says the max powder should be at 57 grains. How is your gun and casings holding up at 58.3 grains?

Muzz
06-10-2013, 09:01 PM
Thanks for the info. I have actually been working some loads up for this exact combo you are speaking of. I'm at about 56.9 grains right now. I think the Nosler reloading book I have says the max powder should be at 57 grains. How is your gun and casings holding up at 58.3 grains?

Everything is holding up well. Primers are a little flat but no signs of anything bad. This gun shoots one hell of a hole.

shootbrownelk
06-10-2013, 11:12 PM
I've shot the gun a few times using some Remington bullets. Nothing fancy just shooting at paper. I know at 150 yds I was still holding less than 1.5 groups...not great, but I figured not bad for the rest and ammo I was using. The gun is a Remington 700 BDL DM SS. I really like the gun I just know trying to find factory ammo for this gun seems real hard to get even when everyone is not buying everything off the shelves.

I'm hoping to make it to the local reloading shop this weekend to pick up my supplies. Just have to figure out where I want to start. I'm thinking in the 140 to 160 gr bullet area.

I know I have some IMR4831 on the shelf. How does this compare to H4831?

I loaded some ammo for my brother's .280 Remington. The 2 that worked best for him were 52.0 gr. of IMR 4350 and 54.0 gr. of IMR 4831 using 140 gr. Barnes X bullets. I like using the "lead-free" bullets, the Hornady GMX is another favorite of mine. Hope this helps.

Kentucky hunter
09-08-2013, 05:19 PM
I was just given a .280 from my grandpa. I figured I would try reloading ammo for it. Anyone shoot a Remington 280 and want to share your load work-ups?

Work2hunt I know this is an older post new to this but I shoot a 280 rem if you want some loads I have 2 down 139 sst hdy an 140 barnes an going to work up 2 more next spring with some larger bullets 162 sst an 168 ttsx

Work2hunt
09-08-2013, 05:58 PM
I'm always interested in new info. So far I have been playing with loads for 140 and 160 gr accubonds. I've been liking them on paper and haven't had bad luck on deer with them when I shot factory loads before.

canvsbk
09-08-2013, 06:26 PM
RL22 is the friend of all 7mm's. Also, the burn rate of H4831 and H4831sc are the same. Same deal with I7828 & I7828ssc.

Kentucky hunter
09-08-2013, 07:29 PM
I'm always interested in new info. So far I have been playing with loads for 140 and 160 gr accubonds. I've been liking them on paper and haven't had bad luck on deer with them when I shot factory loads before.

My 280 hdy 139gr sst load imr 4831 54.1gr ol 3.300 280 barnes 140 tsx load rl 22 58.0gr ol 3.210 both bullets are moly coated the load are at or above max load but no sign of case problems read that the books are light loads for auto loaders

Kentucky hunter
09-08-2013, 07:35 PM
I'm always interested in new info. So far I have been playing with loads for 140 and 160 gr accubonds. I've been liking them on paper and haven't had bad luck on deer with them when I shot factory loads before.

Almost forgot the hdy dump everything in the deer no exit wound the barnes cause masive damage an will exit everytime an both cut bullet holes on paper at 100yd

Mustang06
09-09-2013, 07:12 PM
Took a lot of variations but I finally settled on a load for my rem 700 mountain rifle in .280 that cuts bullet holes.
49.5 grains of IMR 4350 with a 160 grn Nosler accubond. I tried every bullet from 140 to 162 grain and lots of powder types and charges. The thing that made the most difference was getting the seating depth (overall length) just perfect. Mine are at 3.387.

I shot a whitetail last year at about 100 yards. The bullet went thru a beech sapling (about 3" diameter) then hit the deer in the shoulder. He only went 30 yards. Accubonds are unbelievable bullets. I wouldn't hesitate to shoot elk out to 350 yds with that load.

mcseal2
09-10-2013, 05:48 PM
I can't tell you much about the 280, but I have been real impressed with the 140gr accubond. I worked up a light load for my 7 mag to use practicing and for deer pushing the 140gr accubond at 3000fps, about 280 speeds. I wanted a milder load at the same velocity as my hot 160gr accubond load I used for elk from the lightweight rifle. I took several whitetail with it and never recovered a bullet out to 300yds. A couple were at tough angles too. The deer in my avatar was one of them.

Muzz
09-15-2013, 11:33 AM
is reloader 22 temp stable? im working up loads with berger bullets now. I have been trying H4350 and that is temp stable but its a very dirty powder.

Colorado Cowboy
09-15-2013, 01:05 PM
I reload 4 of the Reloader series (15,17,22 & 25) and have never had a problem. I use the Re25 in my .300 Wby. It is pretty hot load and i notice no differences at any temp I use it at.

Muzz
09-15-2013, 02:09 PM
I currently use the reloader 19 in my 280. it goes from .477" groups to 2.5" groups. depending on the weather. That's the reason I am trying 4350 with some berger bullets. Love the nosler accubonds but am curious to see how the bergers perform on deer and if I am lucky enough elk.

Colorado Cowboy
09-15-2013, 02:56 PM
Is this the only powder that does it?

Kentucky hunter
09-15-2013, 03:10 PM
is reloader 22 temp stable? im working up loads with berger bullets now. I have been trying H4350 and that is temp stable but its a very dirty powder.
RL 22 has been good to me in all temps shot last summer 95 to 100 deg out an hunted in 30 or less never got to shoot it at longrange after it got cold out will try this winter

Muzz
09-15-2013, 03:11 PM
yes so far that I have noticed. I do know I am looking for a bedding job to be done on my rifle. just to rule that out. I love the accuracy and the velocities I get with the rel 19 and my accubonds. Them bullets are my go to bullet unless the bergers prove me wrong, there just finicky bastards to load.

Colorado Cowboy
09-16-2013, 07:59 AM
I've reloaded, built custom rifles and generally experimented in shooting all kinds of rifles, pistols and shotguns for over 50 years. Most shooters don't take the time to do the research, reading and expermintation to understand that most guns can be very different from another one produced off the same assembly line. All the machined parts can be very different from each other.. Accumulation of machining tolerances are there and when we try to make every rifle as accurate as a custom benchrest rifle it shows up. IMHO this is why each rifle shoots a particular combination of bullet, powder and primer better than another combo. This particular combo may not shoot well at all in another rifle of the same mfg and caliber. There are just too many variables present...even without the shooter being involved!

Didn't mean to get too far off the subject, but a little understanding of the problems that can be encountered IMHO were in order. Today a lot of shooters (and hunters too) are expecting and demanding performance that in a lot of cases is impossible from a lot of rifles. Some of the gun, ammunition and component suppliers realize this and are doing at great job of meeting our expectations without breaking the bank. Savage is a good example.

Keep working, testing and shooting. Its fun and you will eventually figure out what works best for you.

mcseal2
09-16-2013, 10:51 AM
I can weigh in a little on how Berger VLD hunting bullets perform in the 140gr weight at similar velocity. I've taken several whitetail and antelope with them from my 264 win mag loaded to 2950fps. In short they perform exactly as advertised. They have a small entry, often hard to spot from the outside on a fatter animal as they seal up. They penetrate 2-3" and then rapidly fragment. I've yet to shoot anything real big with them, but nothing I've shot with them has made it over 40yds. I took a neighbor's son out last night and he got his first deer at 212yds and it went only 40yds setting the new record. The lungs, top of the heart, and even the guts were heavily damaged on a good center lung shot from the massive expansion. There was an exit wound this time, something I see about half the time, of about 3". A friend who was along last fall when we took 3 antelope with my rifle between 175 and 351yds describes their performance as a grenade going off as soon as they get inside the ribcage.

The good about the Berger is that they do massive internal damage and shut deer size game down quick, even with a shot a little to far back. The bad is that the tiny entrance wound seldom bleeds much if at all and they don't exit half the time making blood trails iffy. This has never been a problem for me because the animal never makes it far enough to need the blood trail, but it still makes me a little nervous to be honest. I've used them in 87gr (Berger chose me as one of their testers) and 95gr 6mm, plus the 140gr 6.5mm and have never seen one fail on big game or had one run far, but I've seen absolutely no blood on the outside of an animal after a hit that didn't exit.

Another negative I've seen is the smaller ones failing to open fast enough to kill a coyote quick if that matters to you. 2-3" is pretty deep into a broadside coyote, and if fragmentation doesn't start until then the yote can run quite a ways after the hit I've seen. Probably why Berger also makes varmint bullets and designates these two as hunting bullets not varmint bullets. Accubonds actually work better for yotes because their expansion starts on contact more dramatically and they usually go right down. Seating depth can be tricky for Bergers too especially when trying to fit a magazine. When I had my 264 built I had a Wyatt extended box installed to get around the magazine length problem. I tried loading all Berger's recommended seating depths and never got the gun to shoot sub MOA. I then switched to the 140gr accubond and got good loads right off. Out of curiosity I tried putting Bergers on top of my accubond load and instantly went to sub 1/2" groups at a seating depth quite a bit deeper than Berger recommends. I still use that load, not the hottest but it sure works fine.

Again I like both bullets real well once I figured out where to use which one. I currently only use the Berger in the 264 and use the Accubond in all my other big game or big game/coyote rifles. On the windy plains and hills that I hunt where shots can stretch out I really appreciate the decreased wind drift and drop for longer shots using the Berger. When hunting bigger game or with smaller calibers I tend to lean toward the accubond. I really want to get to testing the new 150gr accubond long range in all my rifles now that it's starting to show up, it may be the best of both worlds.

270whiz
12-06-2013, 04:04 PM
The 280. The riflemans, Rifle. Wish they made the REM 700 cdl sf in it. REMINGTON just about gave up on it. I love it.

SansSouci
12-06-2013, 06:08 PM
Work2hunt,

I don't have a .280 Rem. I wish I did. Had I been as smart as I knew I was when I began rifle buying I would have bought a .280 & saved money that went to rifles and used it for hunting. To my way of looking at cartridges, the .280 Rem is as good as it gets.

I do own a 7MM Rem Mag. Based upon what I've read and have been told, a .280 can be handloaded to close to the equivalent of the 7MM Rem Mag, within a couple hundred FPS. I don't think any big game animal is going to notice such a minor velocity differential, which narrows at impact.

I hope you enjoy your .280 Rem.

6mm Remington
12-07-2013, 06:59 AM
The 280 Remington is a fabulous cartridge in standard for or in the .280 AI. In my .280 Remington I used 140 gr. Nosler Partitions and I also think the 140 gr. Accubonds would be a fantastic bullet in it. I would suggest bullets from 140-160 grs. and shoot the one your rifle likes the best.

My load is 54.0 grs. of IMR4350. It is just a little over what the Nosler book calls for but my case life is great and there are no pressure signs. I played a bit with H4831SC and it too seems to be a really good powder for this cartridge. I killed my largest bull with my .280 at 250 yards!! You cannot go wrong with a .280 Remington!! David

Work2hunt
12-07-2013, 08:00 AM
I'm enjoying my 280 so far. I'm still working on some loads. I've tried some hornadys, accubonds, partitions, and burgers all in the 140-160 grains range. So far my gun seems to like the nosler products best and I liked the accubonds expansion and weight retention from the few bullets I did recover. Now that my hunting season is wrapped up for the year, except for some predator control, I'll get back to trying to fine tune some loads.

Overall working up different loads is new to me so I'm going pretty slow with my science experiment. I'm getting 100yd groups of about an inch and some of that is me as I haven't had the trigger time lately that I would like to be putting in. But I plan to change that this winter and get a solid load I like and me back into rifle shooting shape.......hopefully it won't mess my archery up. I've been doing great out to 75yds.;)

gspman
12-08-2013, 06:53 PM
4831 and 140 accubonds....nothing better ...thor's hammer
I am getting less than 1/2 MOA in a mountain rifle, work up your own load on your rifle