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lostriverproductions
04-12-2013, 06:46 AM
Looking for a good affordable Dall sheep hunt in Alaska. The prices seem to go up and down like a roller coaster. Most places say they average 36" Ram and I would be happy with that. Have a buddy that would like to do a hunt to so we need to find a place we can start saving for. I know I'll probably never get a lower 48 big horn tag and I don't think the Dall would be a bad conciliation prize at all. Anyone have any experience good or bad with outfitters in Alaska?

Ridgerunner
04-12-2013, 07:13 AM
Look at Max schwab, reasonably priced dall hunt. I am going with him in august

AKaviator
04-12-2013, 10:11 AM
LRP,

There are big differences in quality of outfitters up here. I'll send you a p.m.

Edelweiss
04-12-2013, 01:27 PM
Draw a Tok Management Tag or Chugach tag then book an outfitter like Rick French that uses horses.

sjsmallfield
04-12-2013, 06:24 PM
What's an affordable Dall Sheep hunt???

Ridgerunner
04-12-2013, 06:49 PM
Definitely a relative term, I would say relative to a stone sheep hunt, lol. The cost is getting out of cintrol

Umpqua Hunter
04-12-2013, 07:22 PM
I saw the writing on the wall and booked my stone in 1995, and I am glad I did.....but some of you were probably still in diapers back then....lol

sjsmallfield
04-12-2013, 07:52 PM
I saw the writing on the wall and booked my stone in 1995, and I am glad I did.....but some of you were probably still in diapers back then....lol

Not quite, but still in high school... Sorry Umpqua I had to. ;)

Edelweiss
04-12-2013, 09:49 PM
This is a basic guideline for sheep and goats, you will find some lower and some much more expensive.

Alaska Dall Sheep $12-25,000
Alaska Mountain Goats $7500

Yukon and NWT Dall Sheep $17-30,000
Yukon and NWT Goats $10-17,000
Yukon Stone sheep $28-50,000

BC Dall $14-22,000
BC Stone $28-55,000
BC Bighorn $20-35,000
BC Goat $6500-14,000

Mongolia
High Altai Argali Sheep $60,000
Hangay Altai Argali Sheep $45,000
Gobi Altai Argali Sheep $35,000
Ibex $7500

Nepal
Blue sheep $13,000
Blue sheep and Tahr $18,000
Tahr $8500

Pakistan
Karakoram Blue Sheep $18-25,000
Karakoram Hymalayan Ibex $8500-13,000

Pakistan, Iran, Turkey
Various Urial Sheep $15-25,000

Pakistan, Iran, Turkey, Kazakhstan, Kyrgizistan, Tajikistan
Various Asian Ibex $9500-20,000

Pakistan
Various Markhor $40-150,000

Europe
Mouflon
$2000-8500 depending on how many inches.
Alpine Ibex $7500-30,000 depending on how many inches

Spain
The four Spanish Ibex $4500-14,000 depending on who you book through.

Chamois in Europe $2500-4500

Chamois in New Zealand $6500-10,000 unless self guided $800-2500 about

Tahr in New Zealand $6500-14,000 unless self guided and can draw the block $800-2500

Ridgerunner
04-12-2013, 11:04 PM
Definitely a rich mans sport.

Umpqua Hunter
04-13-2013, 08:51 AM
Not quite, but still in high school... Sorry Umpqua I had to. ;)

Ha ha SJ...that's okay. I am kinda getting used to being one of the "older" guys...though I'm still in my 40's...just barely.

Umpqua Hunter
04-13-2013, 09:03 AM
Lostriver....your goal of a 36" ram is very doable and a lot of outfitters can do that.

If you want to save some $ and you are flexible at all, consider doing your homework and identify about 5 to 10 outfitters you would be willing to hunt with and let them know you'd be willing to hunt sheep on a....say....4-6 week notice. A lot of outfitters get cancellations and already have a deposit on the hunt. To sell those hunts they often take them to consultants who they have to pay a cut to. I think that could be a way to save some money if that's important to you. On the other hand being able to look forward to the hunt, train and prepare is part of the whole experience.

mt-mike
04-14-2013, 10:55 AM
I saw the writing on the wall and booked my stone in 1995, and I am glad I did.....but some of you were probably still in diapers back then....lol

Booked my stone hunt in 1973! $1750 for a 14-day, horseback hunt. I'm sure some of you were in diapers or maybe only a gleam in your father's eyes. FYI - It was just as hard to justify paying that amount of money (seemed huge at the time) back then as it is to spend $17,500 on a hunt today.

If I was looking for a good quality dall hunt today for as low a cost as possible, I would give Atchenson's - Hunting Consultants, in Butte, Montana a call. Discuss your financial situation and perhaps get on their cancellation list.

Here is a picture of my 10-year old stone ram taken near Muncho Lake, B.C. in September, 1973. I am very happy I bit the bullet and paid the price back then.

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q686/Mt-mike/StoneampDall032_zps969d0e07.jpg (http://s1354.photobucket.com/user/Mt-mike/media/StoneampDall032_zps969d0e07.jpg.html)

lostriverproductions
04-15-2013, 09:32 AM
Very help full guys, Yes I'm trying to get one before they keep going up and my kids start getting more expensive. I like the idea of the cancellation hunt, but might mess up future hunts as I am planning different hunts for a different species each year for a while, or at least trying too.

Montana
04-15-2013, 09:09 PM
Booked my stone hunt in 1973! $1750 for a 14-day, horseback hunt. I'm sure some of you were in diapers or maybe only a gleam in your father's eyes. FYI - It was just as hard to justify paying that amount of money (seemed huge at the time) back then as it is to spend $17,500 on a hunt today.

If I was looking for a good quality dall hunt today for as low a cost as possible, I would give Atchenson's - Hunting Consultants, in Butte, Montana a call. Discuss your financial situation and perhaps get on their cancellation list.

Here is a picture of my 10-year old stone ram taken near Muncho Lake, B.C. in September, 1973. I am very happy I bit the bullet and paid the price back then.

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q686/Mt-mike/StoneampDall032_zps969d0e07.jpg (http://s1354.photobucket.com/user/Mt-mike/media/StoneampDall032_zps969d0e07.jpg.html)

If there is anything on this forum that fires me up it is high quality photos. Priceless photo. If I was guaranteed a photo like this at the end of my trip I would pay 17k :)

AMAZING pic. Congrats.

packer58
04-15-2013, 09:39 PM
Yes sir, that one hell of a photo !!!

llp
04-16-2013, 02:08 PM
I would not recommend Atcheson's for sheep hunts in AK. The only bad sheep hunt I had was booked through Atchesons, and they were no help. Claimed they knew the outfitter was having problems, and others had complained also, but they dropped him after my hunt. Lot of good that did me. Beware.
llp

Fink
04-16-2013, 02:27 PM
Mt-Mike: That has got to be one of the best sheep photos I've ever seen. Totally awesome.

Seriously though, how did you kill him without any Sitka or KUIU gear?

CoHiCntry
04-17-2013, 06:41 PM
Mt-Mike: That has got to be one of the best sheep photos I've ever seen. Totally awesome.
Seriously though, how did you kill him without any Sitka or KUIU gear?

LOL!!! I was thinking the same thing! The real western guys Git R Done in blue jeans and an old coat I guess! Love it...

sdcowboy
04-17-2013, 07:25 PM
i booked with mont at huntdallsheep.com for 2014. He is a little more expensive but his success and size of sheep are a plus. Plus he has an opening in the small window that to hunt. I've checked with lots of outfitters and most are already booked for next 2 years. Max Schwab is the cheapest I've found and I have talked to him and his guides alot. He and his staff were quickly to answer all my questions. He is booked through 2014. If you are looking to go soon you better book something soon. the best advice is to call and ask questions and see what fits your budget and time schedule. Good luck

squared73
04-18-2013, 12:57 PM
Looking for a good affordable Dall sheep hunt in Alaska. The prices seem to go up and down like a roller coaster. Most places say they average 36" Ram and I would be happy with that. Have a buddy that would like to do a hunt to so we need to find a place we can start saving for. I know I'll probably never get a lower 48 big horn tag and I don't think the Dall would be a bad conciliation prize at all. Anyone have any experience good or bad with outfitters in Alaska?

In my opinion there is only 1 guy to consider- Braun Kopsack Knik Glacier Adventures. Just make sure you go in the best shape of your life

Ridgerunner
04-18-2013, 08:52 PM
Braun would be an excellent choice

tim
04-23-2013, 06:07 PM
make sure you ask questions about the actual guide. Does the outfitter have guides that come back every year. Have the packers packed before?
The reason i say this is, I went to alaska and had more time in the mountains of alaska than the guide did. The packer had never worn a full size pack before. We ran out of food, but i did get my ram. I guess i should have sheep hunted when i lived up there.

MtnHunter
07-01-2013, 06:51 PM
59725972I had a great hunt with Jonah Stewart last year.

Brady
07-01-2013, 11:10 PM
Booked my stone hunt in 1973! $1750 for a 14-day, horseback hunt. I'm sure some of you were in diapers or maybe only a gleam in your father's eyes. FYI - It was just as hard to justify paying that amount of money (seemed huge at the time) back then as it is to spend $17,500 on a hunt today.

If I was looking for a good quality dall hunt today for as low a cost as possible, I would give Atchenson's - Hunting Consultants, in Butte, Montana a call. Discuss your financial situation and perhaps get on their cancellation list.

Here is a picture of my 10-year old stone ram taken near Muncho Lake, B.C. in September, 1973. I am very happy I bit the bullet and paid the price back then.

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q686/Mt-mike/StoneampDall032_zps969d0e07.jpg (http://s1354.photobucket.com/user/Mt-mike/media/StoneampDall032_zps969d0e07.jpg.html)

Beautiful ram!

smokepole
07-15-2013, 05:17 PM
Call Wayne Kubat in AK. He an honest hard working man. http://www.alaskaremote.com/index.htm

You might want to try these folks too http://deltana.com/. They are known for excellent sheep hunts. Ask them if Billy Molls is still guiding for them. He's a hell of a sheep hunter. Here's Billy's site. http://www.billymollsadventures.com/

llp
08-05-2013, 11:33 AM
Billy Molls is the real deal when it comes to Dall Sheep. Deltana, on the other hand, not so much. Billy worked for them, and gave them a great rep. They use a variety of guides however, some good, and some way below average. Unless you know who you are going with, exercise caution.
llp

tim
08-23-2013, 12:14 PM
leaving sunday for a hunt in the wrangells. looking forward to it.

tim
10-01-2013, 01:32 PM
leaving sunday for a hunt in the wrangells. looking forward to it.

Hunt never happened. Flew into Pioneer Outfitters lodge and the crew wasn't there. Flew out 6 days later and the crew still wasn't there. Talk about being ripped off.

Fink
10-01-2013, 01:36 PM
Hunt never happened. Flew into Pioneer Outfitters lodge and the crew wasn't there. Flew out 6 days later and the crew still wasn't there. Talk about being ripped off.

What the heck??

AKaviator
10-01-2013, 02:27 PM
tim,

I sent you a p.m.

lookinforwater
10-01-2013, 04:15 PM
Can we hear what went on?

Ridgerunner
10-01-2013, 04:34 PM
I hunted with Max schwab and had an excellent hunt this past August shooting a ten year old full curl ram. I wouldn't hesitate to go with him again it was a great trip.

AKaviator
10-02-2013, 04:45 PM
Forum friends,

It's disappointing to me that someone had a bad experience with one the the Guide/Outfitters here in Alaska. I'm not a guide but I do know quite a few of them and I know that some are really great, others not so much.

If anyone does come to Alaska and experiences one of the later type, you do have some recourse. Alaska, through the Department of Commerce and Economic Development, has the Big Game Commercial Services Board (BGCSB). They would appreciate hearing about your experience and have some excellent investigators that would follow up with you.

If I were planning a guided hunt in Alaska, I would call them and touch base about any guide/outfitter that you are considering. Be sure to ask if they are currently licensed and what areas and species that they are qualified for. Know what area the guide generally hunts and call the local Wildlife Trooper and the local Fish and Game biologist in those areas and seek their opinions.

There is never a "guaranteed" hunt up here, weather is always an issue, but if you spend the time, effort and money to make a guided hunt here, you deserve the best from your chosen guide/outfitter.

I do know a lot of them, never hesitate to contact me on the forum and I would be happy to do whatever I can to point you the right direction or steer you away from the wrong one, if possible.

Good hunting to you all!

2brassballs
12-29-2013, 06:01 PM
I been trying to book/contact with Max for few weeks now with 0 luck. I'll be turning 40 in aug 2016 and would like to book a hunt soon .

Ridgerunner
12-29-2013, 08:09 PM
Keep trying to get ahold of max, try email. It will be worth it. http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/30/suvavaqe.jpg

Montana
12-30-2013, 06:03 AM
Keep trying to get ahold of max, try email. It will be worth it. http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/30/suvavaqe.jpg
Another amazing photo.. nice work.

Father&son_outdoorsman
01-04-2014, 07:09 PM
I'd recommend max schwab. He's a great guy, and the hunts are a blast! He also has good deals on combo hunts!

halfslam
01-05-2014, 06:40 PM
59725972I had a great hunt with Jonah Stewart last year.

Man, that is a boomer of a Dall. Hard to find a Dall with that much mass. Congrats!!!

halfslam
01-09-2014, 06:58 PM
I did a hunt with Ellis Big Game guides, also called Devils Mountain Lodge, www.DevilsMountainLodge.com, out of Nebesna (Wrangell St. Elias National Park). I flew into Anchorage, rented a car and drove to the lodge. Great way to see Alaska. You can also get on their cancellation hunt notification list for a reduced price hunt if you are willing to wait. They also hunt Moose and Bear. Good guides and pilots.

Alabama
04-18-2014, 05:50 AM
Anybody have any experience with Nin ridge guide service (Karl Braendel)?