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SAR
09-20-2013, 08:37 PM
I wear glasses and have a hard time with the field of view through a spotting scope, can anyone recommend a pair of high magnification binos greater then 15 power for long range glassing?

clacklin009
09-20-2013, 09:48 PM
Nikon has just introduced a pair of 16x56 and 20x56 Monarch 5's. The 20x will sell for $800-$900. There are a few 15x binos out there but not as many 20x so they might be worth looking into. I have seen them in Sportsmans Warehouse but I don't know if every store will be carrying them since it appeals to a small market.

hardstalk
09-20-2013, 09:53 PM
I don't know how deep your wallet stretches but look up docter optics. There serious glass! May be spelled dokter not real sure. Regardless youll want a solid tripod if you dont already have one. They turn sub par binos into great glassers!

hardstalk
09-20-2013, 09:55 PM
Nikon has just introduced a pair of 16x56 and 20x56 Monarch 5's. The 20x will sell for $800-$900. There are a few 15x binos out there but not as many 20x so they might be worth looking into. I have seen them in Sportsmans Warehouse but I don't know if every store will be carrying them since it appeals to a small market.

Ill check those out for sure. But for some reason the first thing that comes to mind is 20x for 800 = not worth a look. But id like to check them out and prove my brain wrong. If there solid and clear ill be selling them asap!

Umpqua Hunter
09-21-2013, 08:43 AM
Swarovski SLC 15X56. They are on sale for $1700 at most places right now.

Fatrascal
09-21-2013, 08:56 AM
Kowa also has a pair of "Big Eyes" called Highlanders. Very expensive though. Its actually two spotting scopes set up as binoculars. fatrascal.

SAR
09-22-2013, 02:55 PM
Thanks all, great info for me to check out. I looked at the Kowa Highlanders on thier web site very heavy...

SAR
09-22-2013, 02:59 PM
Ill check those out for sure. But for some reason the first thing that comes to mind is 20x for 800 = not worth a look. But id like to check them out and prove my brain wrong. If there solid and clear ill be selling them asap!

Hardstalk, what is it about the 20x you think is not worth the look?

SAR
09-22-2013, 03:16 PM
Nikon has just introduced a pair of 16x56 and 20x56 Monarch 5's. The 20x will sell for $800-$900. There are a few 15x binos out there but not as many 20x so they might be worth looking into. I have seen them in Sportsmans Warehouse but I don't know if every store will be carrying them since it appeals to a small market.

Checked these out online, I’ll definitely give these a look. Thanks clacklin009

hardstalk
09-22-2013, 04:10 PM
Hardstalk, what is it about the 20x you think is not worth the look?

I just think that subpar glass @ 20x fixed will leave ya hangin. Might be able to get away with low quality glass for 8 or 10x but if you have a fixed 20x your going to want some quality to see past a mile. I would like to know how these work out though. My train of thought may be completely backwards.

hoshour
09-22-2013, 06:43 PM
I assume you have a hard time with field of view because you leave your glasses on when you use a spotter. I take my glasses off when I use my spotting scope and often when I use my binos for an extended time. Would that work for you?

Kentucky hunter
09-22-2013, 07:16 PM
I wear glasses and have a hard time with the field of view through a spotting scope, can anyone recommend a pair of high magnification binos greater then 15 power for long range glassing?

Are you wanting ot pack them in your pack or on a horse or use from the truck my uncle has stiner 20x80 they are very heavy but some great glass

SAR
09-22-2013, 07:28 PM
I assume you have a hard time with field of view because you leave your glasses on when you use a spotter. I take my glasses off when I use my spotting scope and often when I use my binos for an extended time. Would that work for you?

You are correct on the field of view, my eye sight is very bad without my glasses and I feel I must keep them on. I do fine with binos though.

SAR
09-22-2013, 07:35 PM
I just think that subpar glass @ 20x fixed will leave ya hangin. Might be able to get away with low quality glass for 8 or 10x but if you have a fixed 20x your going to want some quality to see past a mile. I would like to know how these work out though. My train of thought may be completely backwards.

Thanks for the explanation youíre probably right, you just donít get much for $800 bucks these days might still be worth a look.

mcseal2
09-22-2013, 09:30 PM
I don't have 15x binos, but the difference between 10x alpha quality glass and the mid range can be extreme at least with my eyes. I had the good Minox 13x56 binos that I read a lot of great reviews on and traded them in on the 10x42 Zeiss Victory binos I have now. I guarantee that I can see more detail on deer tines with the 10x Zeiss in any light than with the 13x Minox that are still darn good binos. I was impressed with the 13x until I got the Zeiss. I'm cheap but sometimes things are worth the extra money to buy once and enjoy.

My advice would be to find a place to try 15x Swaro binos, I have been wanting a pair myself after looking through an outfitters on a muley hunt a few years back. The guide he had working for him had 10-15 Leica Duovids that were also impressive although not quite up to the Swaros on 15x. I'd be interested in seeing the Nikon ones also but will have to see them to become a believer. The Vortex Kaibabs are awful nice from the short time I looked through a pair also. If you get the chance take the Swaros, Vortex, and Nikons outdoors and try them on small detailed things at decent range. In a store with bright lights everything looks better than it is, try picking out individual leaves at 600yds outdoors for example. The fine crisp detail is what you are looking for to identify and evaluate animals. If you get the chance please do a post on your thoughts also.

I guess my point is to not get overly hung up on magnification. Top quality glass with a lower magnification will beat mid-range glass with higher magnification for my eyes at least. Go somewhere to try them outdoors and see what fits you the best evaluating fine detail at range.

SAR
09-23-2013, 05:03 PM
Great advice micseal2 thanks. I have a pair of 15x Zeiss conquest, does anyone know how they would compare to the 15x Swaro's? I know the Swaro's are twice the money but will I see a noticeable difference?

squirrelduster
09-23-2013, 09:45 PM
I bought a pair of 20x by Celestron a few years ago after looking through a pair of Zeiss 20x80. Waste of money.
I have a pair of Kaibabs 15x56 and the glass is so much better the higher power of the Celestron is actually detrimental.
The most important part of any optics is the glass. The better the glass the higher the price. When the magnification goes up the better glass becomes more important. A pair of cheapo 7x50 perform pretty well for the most part, jump up to 10x and a pair of cheapos gives you a headache almost instantly when glassing. The 20x is worse.
Mcseal is right if you can't afford the good glass save up. Don't settle for second best.

BigSurArcher
09-23-2013, 10:13 PM
I had the pleasure of using some Kowa Highlanders on a recent elk hunt and WOW... those things are incredible. Not something you'd want to pack far obviously, but if you can glass far enough, there's no reason to carry them anywhere. You definitely need a super-duty tripod for them.

This has been my first year hunting with 15x56s and I'm a believer.

mcseal2
09-24-2013, 06:12 AM
They had a good article on 24hr campfire a while back comparing the Zeiss with the Swaros and some of the others. They said with the smaller lenses they couldn't compete. Found the link.

http://www.24hourcampfire.com/big_eyes.html

SAR
09-25-2013, 03:08 PM
They had a good article on 24hr campfire a while back comparing the Zeiss with the Swaros and some of the others. They said with the smaller lenses they couldn't compete. Found the link.

http://www.24hourcampfire.com/big_eyes.html

Good article, thank you!

mcseal2
09-25-2013, 04:32 PM
Your welcome, glad it helped