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MTnsheds
11-18-2013, 06:30 PM
I have "max" non-resident points in Wyoming for mule deer and elk. My hunting partner, not a mule deer hunter, has "max" elk points. The original idea was to try to draw a coveted elk permit with him and I would wait to attempt a mule deer draw. However, he just found out that he will be attending a three month training next fall and we will not be hunting elk. Because of the change of plans, I am considering applying for a difficult mule deer unit. I want to rifle hunt but do not want to go guided, as required, in one of the wilderness areas. I live in Montana and have great hunting opportunities each year so I do not care if the draw odds are not terrific. Should I keep waiting and let the population and quality recover (read and heard lots of not-so-good reports)? If not, any thoughts or suggestions? Any help is appreciated and I can/will certainly reciprocate with MT hunt info. Good luck as you guys finish out this season. MTnsheds

sreekers
11-18-2013, 06:41 PM
Send me a pm, we can talk about a couple units there.

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Eberle
11-18-2013, 06:51 PM
Unit 90 I'd apply now!

MTnsheds
11-29-2013, 04:15 PM
Any other suggestions from the crowd? How about additional info on 90? I am thinking of making a trip or two to check out the country. Maybe even a shed trip next spring. Thanks. MTnsheds

Colorado Cowboy
11-29-2013, 06:00 PM
Hope you have better luck than I've had. Been applying for 90 for about 10 years and got one tag before PP were given. I have max pts and nothing. Seems like I remember less than 20% chance with max pts.

Musket Man
11-29-2013, 06:56 PM
17% in reg draw and 21% in special draw and est. 35-29 points to draw in last years MRS. I would really like to hunt 90 but I dont have the patience to wait in that long of a line.

Colorado Cowboy
11-29-2013, 07:40 PM
The thing that keeps me coming back to it is the bucks I've seen there.

MtnBoy
11-30-2013, 09:42 AM
17% in reg draw and 21% in special draw and est. 35-29 points to draw in last years MRS. I would really like to hunt 90 but I dont have the patience to wait in that long of a line.

Dang! I better re-read the MRS, I thought 6 points and the Special Draw got you the tag for sure!

Umpqua Hunter
11-30-2013, 10:02 AM
For Unit 90 non-resident draw with max points (8 points going into the 2014 draw):

2009 Regular License: 12 preference tags, 54 max point applicants = 22.2% draw
2010 Regular License: 14 preference tags, 35 max point applicants = 40.0% draw
2011 Regular License: 10 preference tags, 65 max point applicants = 15.4% draw
2012 Regular License: 8 preference tags, 47 max point applicants = 17.0% draw
2013 Regular License: 7 preference tags, 30 max point applicants = 23.3% draw

2009 Special License: 8 preference tags, 10 max point applicants = 80.0% draw
2010 Special License: 9 preference tags, 18 max point applicants = 50.0% draw
2011 Special License: 8 preference tags, 15 max point applicants = 53.3% draw
2012 Special License: 6 preference tags, 29 max point applicants = 20.7% draw
2013 Special License: 5 preference tags, 9 max point applicants = 55.6% draw

Going into the 2014 draw there are still 3013 non-resident applicants with max points so anything can happen.

Colorado Cowboy
11-30-2013, 11:28 AM
The real problem (from an applicant standpoint) is the fewer tags each year. 2013 down about 40% since 2009.

Umpqua Hunter
11-30-2013, 11:55 AM
The real problem (from an applicant standpoint) is the fewer tags each year. 2013 down about 40% since 2009.

Applying in the special pool will drastically improve your odds. Two to three years applying in that pool should statistically assure a tag. Personally, I'd like to hunt a unit on the down cycle in numbers of tags.

Colorado Cowboy
11-30-2013, 12:31 PM
I agree with that. I have max points and am thinking about the special tag.

Musket Man
11-30-2013, 06:27 PM
The thing that keeps me coming back to it is the bucks I've seen there.

Its hard to argue with that! I think if I had max points I would stick with it but I only have 3 points and I would like to draw a tag with 4 or 5 points but I will see what happens the next year or 2.

libidilatimmy
12-03-2013, 11:28 AM
If not, any thoughts or suggestions? MTnsheds

I sent you a PM.

MTnsheds
06-16-2014, 07:52 PM
After receiving advice from several of you (thank you and PM's sent) and hitting the research hard, I did apply for unit 90-1. I DREW THE TAG! I have several scouting trips planned and this tag is going to consume my time and effort. At the risk of hearing from the "how dare you ask crowd that always comments on this site", anyone have any advice? For those of you that drew MT tags, hit me up and I will see how I can help.

mattdeere
06-16-2014, 09:06 PM
After receiving advice from several of you (thank you and PM's sent) and hitting the research hard, I did apply for unit 90-1. I DREW THE TAG! I have several scouting trips planned and this tag is going to consume my time and effort. At the risk of hearing from the "how dare you ask crowd that always comments on this site", anyone have any advice? For those of you that drew MT tags, hit me up and I will see how I can help.

Congratulations on a great tag! Good luck! Hunt hard and shoot straight is the only advice I can give you. Wish. I knew more about the area. What part of MT are you from?

MTnsheds
06-16-2014, 10:09 PM
Mattdeere - Thanks. Hoping to get down there for several weeks. As for the shooting straight part, I will be spending my fair share of time at the range. I'm from Bozeman but hunt all around the state.

woodtick
06-17-2014, 05:48 PM
After receiving advice from several of you (thank you and PM's sent) and hitting the research hard, I did apply for unit 90-1. I DREW THE TAG! I have several scouting trips planned and this tag is going to consume my time and effort. At the risk of hearing from the "how dare you ask crowd that always comments on this site", anyone have any advice? For those of you that drew MT tags, hit me up and I will see how I can help.

HAHA Sweet man congrats thats a good area for deer but can be very sporadic, we've hunted antelope in that country a few times definitely some potential for a great buck!!

tim
06-17-2014, 05:59 PM
something to think about in the futre, when I bought my house(Idaho 2002), I made sure there was hunting out of the house, wether on national forest land, or on my small amount of land. I only have 7 acres, but it comes up to national forest land. Small, nothing special house on trophy land. Not bragging, just another way to set your self up for the futre.

It was cool last night to be looking at this years elk calfs.

buckbull
06-17-2014, 07:33 PM
congrats on that tag!! you'll need to keep us informed. I'm -1 from max points and thats the unit i'm shooting for.

Eberle
06-17-2014, 08:20 PM
Congrats on tag, keep us posted!

MTnsheds
06-18-2014, 09:22 AM
Scouting trips planned - first is in early August. I will post an update after that trip.

MTnsheds
07-18-2014, 08:24 AM
Odd question and I know I will get a quick, accurate answer on here. The site shows that I drew the tag, I received my bonus point refund, but I haven't received the actual license. What am I missing? Do I receive it in person when I purchase the conservation license?

Cobbhunts
07-18-2014, 08:52 AM
I just received the antelope tag last week. I believe the Mule deer tag should follow soon behind. So yea, they will mail it to you.

Cobbhunts
07-18-2014, 08:52 AM
And....you print your Conservation stamp when you purchase it online. Good luck and keep us posted on your scouting and hunt please.

Topgun 30-06
07-18-2014, 12:50 PM
Odd question and I know I will get a quick, accurate answer on here. The site shows that I drew the tag, I received my bonus point refund, but I haven't received the actual license. What am I missing? Do I receive it in person when I purchase the conservation license?

As previously mentioned, buy your Conservation Stamp on line and then print it off at home, as they will not send one to you like they do your license/tag.

Musket Man
07-18-2014, 11:44 PM
Odd question and I know I will get a quick, accurate answer on here. The site shows that I drew the tag, I received my bonus point refund, but I haven't received the actual license. What am I missing? Do I receive it in person when I purchase the conservation license?

You dont have to purchase your conservation stamp to get your tag. The tag will come either way, you just have to have the stamp before you hunt. You cat either buy it online or in person when you are in WY. Congrats on the tag!!

MTnsheds
07-24-2014, 09:49 PM
Thanks for the info. Tag showed up a few days ago. Excited to get into that country and get after it!