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MTnsheds
11-18-2013, 06:30 PM
I have "max" non-resident points in Wyoming for mule deer and elk. My hunting partner, not a mule deer hunter, has "max" elk points. The original idea was to try to draw a coveted elk permit with him and I would wait to attempt a mule deer draw. However, he just found out that he will be attending a three month training next fall and we will not be hunting elk. Because of the change of plans, I am considering applying for a difficult mule deer unit. I want to rifle hunt but do not want to go guided, as required, in one of the wilderness areas. I live in Montana and have great hunting opportunities each year so I do not care if the draw odds are not terrific. Should I keep waiting and let the population and quality recover (read and heard lots of not-so-good reports)? If not, any thoughts or suggestions? Any help is appreciated and I can/will certainly reciprocate with MT hunt info. Good luck as you guys finish out this season. MTnsheds

sreekers
11-18-2013, 06:41 PM
Send me a pm, we can talk about a couple units there.

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Eberle
11-18-2013, 06:51 PM
Unit 90 I'd apply now!

MTnsheds
11-29-2013, 04:15 PM
Any other suggestions from the crowd? How about additional info on 90? I am thinking of making a trip or two to check out the country. Maybe even a shed trip next spring. Thanks. MTnsheds

Colorado Cowboy
11-29-2013, 06:00 PM
Hope you have better luck than I've had. Been applying for 90 for about 10 years and got one tag before PP were given. I have max pts and nothing. Seems like I remember less than 20% chance with max pts.

Musket Man
11-29-2013, 06:56 PM
17% in reg draw and 21% in special draw and est. 35-29 points to draw in last years MRS. I would really like to hunt 90 but I dont have the patience to wait in that long of a line.

Colorado Cowboy
11-29-2013, 07:40 PM
The thing that keeps me coming back to it is the bucks I've seen there.

MtnBoy
11-30-2013, 09:42 AM
17% in reg draw and 21% in special draw and est. 35-29 points to draw in last years MRS. I would really like to hunt 90 but I dont have the patience to wait in that long of a line.

Dang! I better re-read the MRS, I thought 6 points and the Special Draw got you the tag for sure!

Umpqua Hunter
11-30-2013, 10:02 AM
For Unit 90 non-resident draw with max points (8 points going into the 2014 draw):

2009 Regular License: 12 preference tags, 54 max point applicants = 22.2% draw
2010 Regular License: 14 preference tags, 35 max point applicants = 40.0% draw
2011 Regular License: 10 preference tags, 65 max point applicants = 15.4% draw
2012 Regular License: 8 preference tags, 47 max point applicants = 17.0% draw
2013 Regular License: 7 preference tags, 30 max point applicants = 23.3% draw

2009 Special License: 8 preference tags, 10 max point applicants = 80.0% draw
2010 Special License: 9 preference tags, 18 max point applicants = 50.0% draw
2011 Special License: 8 preference tags, 15 max point applicants = 53.3% draw
2012 Special License: 6 preference tags, 29 max point applicants = 20.7% draw
2013 Special License: 5 preference tags, 9 max point applicants = 55.6% draw

Going into the 2014 draw there are still 3013 non-resident applicants with max points so anything can happen.

Colorado Cowboy
11-30-2013, 11:28 AM
The real problem (from an applicant standpoint) is the fewer tags each year. 2013 down about 40% since 2009.

Umpqua Hunter
11-30-2013, 11:55 AM
The real problem (from an applicant standpoint) is the fewer tags each year. 2013 down about 40% since 2009.

Applying in the special pool will drastically improve your odds. Two to three years applying in that pool should statistically assure a tag. Personally, I'd like to hunt a unit on the down cycle in numbers of tags.

Colorado Cowboy
11-30-2013, 12:31 PM
I agree with that. I have max points and am thinking about the special tag.

Musket Man
11-30-2013, 06:27 PM
The thing that keeps me coming back to it is the bucks I've seen there.

Its hard to argue with that! I think if I had max points I would stick with it but I only have 3 points and I would like to draw a tag with 4 or 5 points but I will see what happens the next year or 2.

libidilatimmy
12-03-2013, 11:28 AM
If not, any thoughts or suggestions? MTnsheds

I sent you a PM.