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mnhoundman
11-28-2013, 07:27 AM
Hey everyone, I'm trying to plan my first Wyoming muley hunt, I got 4 points going into 2014. Want togo into g but thinking I should try something a little easier first. I have looked at Eastman's hunting journal a lot there's just so many options should i hold out for a limited quota or pick second choice easy to draw area to get my feet wet and what the heck area to head for? Any info you will give is much appreciated. Thanks!

ssliger
11-28-2013, 11:00 AM
What kind of hunt are you looking for? Are you looking to hunt the high country? What about the low land sage and aspens?

mnhoundman
11-28-2013, 11:48 AM
Would love the high country but never done it before. So I was thinking low land would be awesome also. Just to get the feel for it before I get to carried away and go to extreme and have a bad experience, if you know what I mean. I have a cousin in wright but he not sure where to send me. Thanks for any info!

Musket Man
11-28-2013, 04:24 PM
I would hold out for a LE unit. With 4 points you should be able to draw or close to being able to draw some good units. Do you have any antelope points? You could always find an antelope hunt you can draw next year to get your feet wet and scout some deer areas that interest you while you are in WY.

mnhoundman
11-28-2013, 05:39 PM
Yes I do have one antelope point. Not sure where I could go to scout a limited quota area. I'll have to check it out. I hunted unit 27 last year for antelope, but not good deer country.

AT Hiker
12-01-2013, 09:04 PM
I would suggest trying a 2nd choice tag first. That way you can get your feet "wet" and figure your equipment issues out. Region F has left over tags and offers the high country type of hunt (watch out for grizzlys though). There are also a few lower elevation areas to hunt in F as well.

I have never hunted F but I have been in it. I would also not go in alone either and make sure you camp in your truck or a hard side camper.

mnhoundman
12-02-2013, 06:19 PM
Thanks AT Hiker! I was wondering how to do that do I apply for a impossible unit first choice and an F tag for second so I don't loose my points? And can I get a point also the same year?

Musket Man
12-02-2013, 06:41 PM
Points only apply to your 1st choice. You can draw your 2nd choice and still get a point! Some of the general deer tags that used to be easy to draw 2nd choice are tough or impossible to draw 2nd choice now with the recent quota cuts.

mnhoundman
12-02-2013, 09:36 PM
Thanks musket man! Do you think I could draw a second choice F tag? I think I could if I'm looking correctly. If so does anyone have any idea what unit to check out? Remember I'm a rookie, but want a challenge, Lol!!

Muleys 24/7
12-02-2013, 11:21 PM
This year I drew a F tag 2nd choice.

Topgun 30-06
12-03-2013, 06:59 AM
Thanks musket man! Do you think I could draw a second choice F tag? I think I could if I'm looking correctly. If so does anyone have any idea what unit to check out? Remember I'm a rookie, but want a challenge, Lol!!


***If the draw stays like it was this year, you should have no problem drawing F as a second choice and keeping your PPs.

ssliger
12-03-2013, 07:19 AM
Things to keep in mind for region F, most of the areas that are mountainous contain wilderness which a non resident cannot hunt without an outfitter or resident guide. Also the mountainous areas contains grizzly's and wolves. There is tons of public land in 121,122,124. A lot of the deer in the lower elevation reside on private property. It would definitely be a challenging hunt out in the blm land in 124, I have seen some decent bucks out by Burlington. I would send Huntwyodon a PM for advice, he has hunted region F a lot. I have spent quite a bit of time in 124 so I have some places in mind if you draw.

Musket Man
12-03-2013, 10:54 AM
F had leftover tags last year so you should easily draw it 2nd choice. If you look at the stats for the random draw you can see what could be drawn 2nd choice last year. Also if you look up the units on mytopo.com you can get a good idea of the public land in each unit.

Topgun 30-06
12-03-2013, 11:06 AM
124 also has quite a few acres of WIHA private land areas you can hunt without having to obtain permission and the season is in November with the rut coming on fast.

mnhoundman
12-03-2013, 11:35 AM
Thanks guys for the info! When I get a chance I will send huntwyodon a message

AT Hiker
12-16-2013, 12:10 AM
F does have a lot of wilderness in the upper elevations, but F is also a huge area as well. Before I considered F I would seriously consider the grizzly issue (wolfs too) but them grizz's are no joke.

Yellowstone is also nearby and a must stop, along with Bison burger at Irma in Cody.

mnhoundman
12-16-2013, 06:34 AM
Yeah I'm thinking about those grizzlys! The lower country would be ok though right like north and south of Cody? Those bison burgers sound very good!

AT Hiker
12-16-2013, 09:27 PM
Yeah I'm thinking about those grizzlys! The lower country would be ok though right like north and south of Cody? Those bison burgers sound very good!


Yea, the far western units within F (or the ones that fall in the National Forest area) are the main grizzly habitats. They do come down in to the lower BLM lands West of Cody (even some come in town). 2 years ago I was camping just NW of Cody, awoke the next morning and went for a short hike, short because I cut a fresh grizzly track...this was in late Sept and it was pretty warm out.

Im sure a grizz could make his way east towards the Big Horns, but I wouldn't worry about that...if you ran into one in the eastern units in F then you just have bad luck anyways. However, I do not know much about those units either except for the deer numbers are supposed to be low, but plenty of land to hunt on.

mnhoundman
12-17-2013, 07:14 AM
Thanks I'll have to do a little more research on the stuff south and north of Cody, don't think I want to tangle with the grizz!! Has anyone hunted around Cody in the past couple years? We're the deer numbers ok? I've also heard there not real good, but would have lots of land to roam anyway.

lostriverproductions
12-17-2013, 08:42 AM
I hunted antelope unit 80 last year and seen some decent mulies to the north, but It was in the limited quota deer area. Also had a grizz track in our trail on our way back to the truck that wasn't there before. They are coming lower in that area a local told me.

mnhoundman
12-17-2013, 10:18 AM
Thanks lostriver! I see it's limited quota 109, don't know if 121 would be worth a look I suppose there's private there. Do you happen to know how many points to draw 109? Also did you get your antelope?

lostriverproductions
12-17-2013, 12:00 PM
I think 105 is limited draw depending on the season as well could be wrong? Most of antelope unit 80 is just that antelope land, did find some deer away from the hills but nothing worth taking. The one local I talked to patrols a big private land ranch that is mainly mule deer country. Also wasn't really looking for deer so might have been more around if we would have just looked. Yes we got 4 bucks and 2 does. Pics are posted in the antelope sec. For points needed I believe max is what you would need. We did see one really good buck I would guess 170's. really dumb deer drove by him bedded 15 yards of the two track then walked past him as well. He just sat there. Must have knew I didn't have a tag

AT Hiker
12-17-2013, 12:50 PM
I think 105 is limited draw depending on the season as well could be wrong? Most of antelope unit 80 is just that antelope land, did find some deer away from the hills but nothing worth taking. The one local I talked to patrols a big private land ranch that is mainly mule deer country. Also wasn't really looking for deer so might have been more around if we would have just looked. Yes we got 4 bucks and 2 does. Pics are posted in the antelope sec. For points needed I believe max is what you would need. We did see one really good buck I would guess 170's. really dumb deer drove by him bedded 15 yards of the two track then walked past him as well. He just sat there. Must have knew I didn't have a tag

I think they know, as I seen 2 80" antelope in that very same unit late into season...of course I did not have an antelope tag for here! Easily 100 yards from me, which is super close for late September hunted antelope.

I am fairly certain (without looking it up) most of those units around Cody in F are general until Nov, thats when the rut gets really close and the weather drives the deer out of the high ground.

Topgun 30-06
12-17-2013, 01:09 PM
Here's the poop on the units that are being discussed for deer. 105 is under the General License for residents and the Region F license for NRs from 10/1-10/31 for antlered deer on the NF. Then the tag is good from 11/1-11/5 for any deer off the NR, and then for antlerless from 11/6-11/30 off the NF. There is a LE tag Type 1 and it's good for any deer in units 105, 106, and 109 (total of 50 tags issued in 2013) with a season of 11/1-11/15. That tag took the max of 7PPs in 2013 and only 3 tags were issued for the regular draw with a 25% chance of drawing and 3 tags in the special draw with a 42.86% draw. Therefore, unless you have max PPs unit 109 is pretty much out of the running altogether and also the only way you'll hunt unit 105 is with the Regional F tag during October. PS: More and more bears are coming right down along the Shoshone River lower areas now as their numbers increase, so you need to be on guard anywhere up in that country nowadays. Hope that helps!!!

mnhoundman
12-17-2013, 03:38 PM
Thanks everyone! Sounds like I might have to look into something else, not sure I want to run into one of them, I wasn't a wrestler. Lol!! I hope they get that grizzly hunt going like there talking, but I'm sure it will take a lot of time and luck to get that through! Anyone heard any news recently on that?

Topgun 30-06
12-17-2013, 07:41 PM
Thanks everyone! Sounds like I might have to look into something else, not sure I want to run into one of them, I wasn't a wrestler. Lol!! I hope they get that grizzly hunt going like there talking, but I'm sure it will take a lot of time and luck to get that through! Anyone heard any news recently on that?

The Feds want to delist grizzlies up there and already tried to a year ago. Along came a bunch of huggers and they found a judge that told the Feds to do more studies on the whitebark pinecone trees since in some places the bears eat a lot of those pinecones. They'll eventually be delisted and the states will manage them just like they do the wolves now, including some limited hunting. IMHO the latter will be years in coming to fruition and for NRs the cost will be very high.

mnhoundman
12-17-2013, 08:45 PM
I suppose it will take one of those huggers to get mauled and maybe they will think about, but I doubt it!! Not sure what year it was but in Alaska when there wasn't a good salmon run they got hungry and were all over town looking for food,there were a few more attacks than usual. Does anyone recal the Russia attacks the bears came through town and started eating people everyone had to stay indoors until most of them were killed, give it time it will happen here if they don't get on it! And I would assume there just a tad bit more pissy when there hungry towards humans than wolves.

Ultramagg
12-20-2013, 10:45 AM
Great topics listed by everyone. Also many great things to consider. I live in Cody, moved here 2 years ago, so I know the feeling of having a few points, and found out I was going to lose them when i became a resident. I went for a limited draw unit located with in region F. The advice I can give after living here is this. The NR points its takes on a limited unit isnt always from the number of deer and if there are grizzlies or not. There are some limited draw areas around here that can be drawn with a few points, but because they have no access. They are horse back hunts. When looking at units also look at the roads. Even if you are a great back pack and hiker, much of the Northwest quarter of Wyoming is above 5,000 ft elevation and quickly gets to 8,000 ft. . There is very little ATV friendly spots and this year early snow shut many of our roads in late September. A NR hunter that puts the time and money getting ready for a Wyoming hunt, make sure its an area you will get to hunt no matter the weather. A Big Big mule deer is already one of the toughest critters to hunt before adding all the other factors.

mnhoundman
12-20-2013, 06:28 PM
Thanks ultramagg! Probably gonna keep building points and wait for a good limited quota tag some day. I'm sure this has been brought up before, but what would be a good area to just go hunt every year with a general tag and get some experience? Maybe even an archery hunt? Is the Laramie mnts. South of Douglas any good I can't find my Eastman magazine anymore so I'm kinda lost.

mnhoundman
01-24-2014, 06:25 PM
Talking to a few guys here that elk hunt in105 they usually see some good deer, I realize that it's during the rut, but is this area any good for general season deer or would it be just to early?