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jameson hawn
05-03-2011, 12:51 PM
Alright guys this may be covered elsewhere but I have to ask: What are opinions on the Badlands Sacrifice? I currently own a Badlands 4500 and have enjoyed several seasons and many mile with it, but am looking to lighten the load. Currently, I have my sight set on the Sacrifice, but would love to have the opinion of EBJ folks.

To be specific, my hunting will include two weeks in the backcountry for elk and deer with a spike/supply camp. This means I will be resupplying every 3-4 days. August also consists of bonsai backpack bear hunts too. The terrain for both hunts are brutal and awesome. Any thoughts on this pack would be greatly appreciated, as well as any other suggestions. Thanks!

mntnguide
05-03-2011, 01:43 PM
I would suggest reading Nate's article on packs in this months EBJ. He does a great job on evaluating a group of packs that would fit your situation very well. I personally would go with the Eberlestock Blue Widow.

Graylight
05-03-2011, 01:51 PM
Straight off of the Badlands site:

Starting its career by taking people to the top of K-2, Denali, and Everest, the 4500 is chosen by more guides than any other pack on the Market! The 4500 is an internal frame pack using a Polycarbonate frame, which transfers even the strangest loads at half the weight and twice the strength of a traditional aluminum frame pack.

The molded foam suspension matches your body curve for curve, making it the most comfortable hunting pack on the market.

Holds a spotting scope & Tripod
Compatible for carrying Bow & Rifle
Adjustable suspension
Available in two sizes for a perfect fit
Hydration Compatible
Kevlar backtracking at every stress point
Removable Fanny Pack
Unconditional Lifetime Warranty

I have found this to be very accurate in summary... It is a great pack and has been through the ringer with me on several back country trips over a week long... I love it... The sacrifice is lighter but my suspicions may be that you would be sacrificing something... No pun intended. Since I have not tried it, I cannot say much about it though...

jameson hawn
05-03-2011, 03:23 PM
Thanks for your help thus far! I have read the pack review in the latest issue of EBJ, however, I was hoping to get feedback from anyone and everyone who has had a chance to shoulder either the Sacrifice pack or a similar-sized pack that may be worthy. My goal is to make the best informed decision possible because, hey, the off season is gearin' up season!! Thanks again guys!

miller1
05-03-2011, 08:48 PM
I havnt used the sacrafice but if you wont need more than 3 to 4 days of gear at a time look at the Eblerlestock X2, i used this last year for a 3 day pack in and it worked very well and you can also carry a elk quarter with it, if you will have a frame pack to take back for the bulk of the animal the X2 would be excellent.

Elkcrazedfrk
05-03-2011, 08:56 PM
I did alot of research and review reading on several different forums before deciding on my Eberlestock X2. Based on my research, there were a fair amount of complaints regarding the zippers of the badland pack. Aside from that, I cant give an honest opinion on Badlands. My X2 is an awesome pack. My only complaint is the hip pouches sit to far back and are a pain to access while wearing the pack. It still gets 2 thumbs up though:)

Morrison4375
05-04-2011, 08:25 AM
Take a look at the Hornhunter Full Curl System

Reflex
05-04-2011, 05:49 PM
I actually think the Sacrifice will do you well. I have not actually used the pack, so take this for what it is worth, but for the application that you are describing, it sounds ideal. Plus, since you already own the 4500, you can bring that along and leave it at the vehicle for use in the serious packing once you get an animal down. From what I have read and heard about, the Sacrifice is a great lightweight pack that is perfect for about 3 days. The only major complaints that I have heard is that it is a bit noisy (the material they used to get it so lightweight) and that it does not have a meat shelf, unlike the 2200 or 2800. The only meat-hauling ability that this pack has would be in the internal portion of the pack, which might make things a little difficult if you are already completely loaded up with gear. Hope this helps.

T43
05-05-2011, 09:44 AM
I am another happy X2 owner but if you don't need the pack right now you may want to wait and check out the Eberlestock Warhammer. The limited info I have shows it being larger than the X2 with a J design like the Just one packs. It looks like a smaller version of the Blue Widdow without the top pack. I believe the price point is about the same as the Sacrifice. I would upload a picture but it's a flash file and I don't have a clue how to get one of them uploaded. They don't have much info on it but from what I hear they are working on a new website and when they get it running they should have the info on there.

OR Archer
05-29-2011, 12:58 AM
Check out the Blacks Creek Barbarian. I use this pack and its very versatile. It'll hold plenty of weight. Has enough room for ten days worth of gear(4500 ci). Plenty of compression straps to suck it down small. Best feature is the adjustable shoulder strap system. It lets you get a custom fit on where you want the pack to sit on your body.

SDbowhunter
05-29-2011, 08:24 AM
I know its not a hunting pack, but if I'm just going out for a weekend or a short trip in the summer I use an Osprey, its light weight and I seem to think that if I'm trying to keep all my gear light why do I need a pack thats 5 lbs.

Firearrow
05-29-2011, 12:17 PM
I own the older style badlands 4500, and that thing works. I will hall as much meat as your legs will carry, I like the fact that the pack distributes the weight up your back, instead of away from your back, and if you break it send it back no questions asked. BUT, the damn thing doesnt fit me just right. I think that if I tried the reg and not the tall it would be better. Dont like where the hip pockest are, and you cant add a holster to the hip. I have used the sacrifice to carry out meat, and anything larger than a mulie, you are going to regreat having it. The shoulder pads are to narrow.

Bottom line if you are going for deer, 2-3 days the sacrifce, or Sitka Bivy 30/45 would be awsome. Longer trips, and bigger animals you need a pack that is designed for it. Badlands 4500, Eberly Blue Widow/Dragon Fly, or equivalent.

Also go to a place that stocks all of these packs, or order all of them, and try them on, and load them up with all of your stuff. See how it rides on you. It is like finding boots, there is one out there that will fit your better, and you will like the layout of one pack (ie. pockets, panels, style), more than another. Trust me. Get your hands on all of them to see which one you like best, and which one fits the needs you have planed for it.

eblondheim
05-29-2011, 01:13 PM
Eberlestock Blue Widow, only complaint is access to gear.

Stringmusic
05-30-2011, 09:07 AM
I own a Blandlands, but I'm going to spend the extra money and go with a Mystery Ranch backpack.

Skybuster1329
05-30-2011, 10:30 AM
I think the Eberlestock X2 is a great pack plus with the changes they have made to this years model. It looks like they fix this issues that I have complained about. Waist strap and Pockets.....

miller1
06-01-2011, 10:46 AM
Skybuster, did they change somthing on the X2 from the 2010 model? I have the 2010 and was wondering if the 2011 is diferent.

Skybuster1329
06-01-2011, 01:40 PM
Skybuster, did they change somthing on the X2 from the 2010 model? I have the 2010 and was wondering if the 2011 is diferent.

Yes, they did.... Here's review.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bk_OSG9VTb0&feature=player_embedded

T43
06-01-2011, 02:26 PM
If you have the 2010 pack thats the one in the video.

Skybuster1329
06-01-2011, 09:41 PM
If you have the 2010 pack thats the one in the video.

Then I must have the 2009 version, but I purchase Late 2009, so I assumed it was the 2010...

Drhorsepower
06-01-2011, 11:40 PM
I own a Blandlands, but I'm going to spend the extra money and go with a Mystery Ranch backpack.

I can't speak for mystery ranch hunting packs. They do make a great wildland fire pack. Best on the market my opinion which is shared by alot.

Grizzley
06-11-2011, 11:33 PM
MR CC covers all! The basic CC is awesome but I really like the added cap that can double as a very small pack and the additional bags that can go along with the pack and double or triple your enclosed material capacity.

DryFlyGuy
06-18-2011, 01:10 AM
My partner hunted with an X2 last year and is hunting with the Sacrifice this year. The Sacrifice seems like a great pack. I was set to get one this year as well, but after reading the EBJ article, I went with the Flash 32. I think they are both great packs. They both have a ton of pockets that are easily accessible. I went with the Sitka pack due to how quiet the material is. I am a Badlands fan though. I have a 2200 and I love it for weekend hunts. We are hunting 11 days out of the Sacrifice and Flash 32 this year. We have our pack weight down to 35 pounds. Our goal was 30 pounds a piece, but it feels like we are down to a bare minimum as it is. We don't expect to pack a lot of meat with either pack. Our plan is to hike out and get horses when we make our kills.

huntingheritage
06-24-2011, 09:53 PM
I did a lot of research before I bought my last pack. I ended up with an Eberlestock Blue Widow. Awesome pack.
Thats all I have to say.