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adamwipp
01-01-2014, 07:21 PM
I've hunted 67 a few years back during the muzzle loader season, for elk. I liked the area but didn't see many deer up high where the elk were. I have 13 deer points going into the draw this year and I'm thinking of drawing a 3rd season tag.

If any one has hunted 67 during the 3rd season in the last couple of years, I would like to talk to them. I've heard the deer are down low this time of year? Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks adam

alaska2go
01-01-2014, 10:05 PM
I killed a 184" deer in unit 67 in the 3rd season 2007. That was the year the gunisson valley had a terrible winter & killed a lot of the deer. I seen alot of good bucks & seen them mostly in the sage hills. I would difinitely would call a local game warden or the area BLM biologist to get the low down. Great unit w/ lots of public land to hunt. Good luck.

adamwipp
01-02-2014, 05:53 AM
I killed a 184" deer in unit 67 in the 3rd season 2007. That was the year the gunisson valley had a terrible winter & killed a lot of the deer. I seen alot of good bucks & seen them mostly in the sage hills. I would difinitely would call a local game warden or the area BLM biologist to get the low down. Great unit w/ lots of public land to hunt. Good luck.

184 congrats! Sounds like you shot a buck of a life time.would love to see a picture if you have one on your computer? If I can find a mature buck in the 170's I would be more than happy.

When you were out there in 07 did you hunt near Gunnison in the lower area's, or did you hunt closer to the wilderness area on the south end of 67.

HiMtnHnter
01-02-2014, 08:06 AM
The points have sky-rocketed for this hunt and it took 14 points to guarantee a tag in 2013. I would expect at least a 1 point increase for 2014, even if they bump up the quota slightly like they did last year.

xtreme
01-02-2014, 09:19 AM
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I killed a 180 in 3rd season 2012 with a nine point draw. I would love to hunt it again, I know I could do better but mine was close of first day. I had scouted 3 times and seen 5 deer that I would shoot. Reliable hunter gave me location of 200, I found my own 190 the evening before season opened. hunted him hard and later that day I saw his does too late for me. This is a very easy hunt that can be made hard. I hunted Aspens. Always some deer in sage.

adamwipp
01-02-2014, 09:47 AM
The points have sky-rocketed for this hunt and it took 14 points to guarantee a tag in 2013. I would expect at least a 1 point increase for 2014, even if they bump up the quota slightly like they did last year.

last year it only took 13 points to guarantee a tag, and only 1 person didn't draw with 12. The first number on the cdow statistics page is 0 points. They gave out 9 tags to non residents last year.

HiMtnHnter
01-02-2014, 10:05 AM
last year it only took 13 points to guarantee a tag, and only 1 person didn't draw with 12. The first number on the cdow statistics page is 0 points. They gave out 9 tags to non residents last year.

You're right, I was not counting landowner tags . . . Maybe you will squeak in.

alaska2go
01-02-2014, 10:08 AM
184 congrats! Sounds like you shot a buck of a life time.would love to see a picture if you have one on your computer? If I can find a mature buck in the 170's I would be more than happy.

When you were out there in 07 did you hunt near Gunnison in the lower area's, or did you hunt closer to the wilderness area on the south end of 67.



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I actually hunted the eastern portion of the unit. There was much less people & and the BLM biologist had a set of sheds that was well over 200" typical frame.

Umpqua Hunter
01-02-2014, 11:03 AM
I've hunted the Gunnison basin several times. The word I got in 2012 was that Unit 67 was coming back the best of the Gunnison basin units, not that 67 was fully back, but was the best on it's way to recovery.

The draw in for Unit 67 3rd season was as follows:

2010: 8.5% with 6 points
2011: 16.7% with 7 points
2012: 83.3% with 9 points
2013: 50% with 11 points

Ridgerunner
01-02-2014, 11:06 AM
Point creep will be brutal in the next three years is my prediction, it's not good at all for guys chasing. I'm at eight and re-evaluating my options.

HiMtnHnter
01-02-2014, 11:09 AM
Point creep will be brutal in the next three years is my prediction, it's not good at all for guys chasing. I'm at eight and re-evaluating my options.

If the winter is good they will increase tag numbers again. Last year they increased them by 6, not enough to really off-set creep much.

Ridgerunner
01-02-2014, 12:21 PM
How likely is the increase in tag numbers? Also when will some of the 4th season hunts come back?

Umpqua Hunter
01-02-2014, 12:23 PM
Point creep has already been brutal the prior three years and will likely continue. Good news though cause it helps burn that top end faster.

HiMtnHnter
01-02-2014, 12:29 PM
How likely is the increase in tag numbers? Also when will some of the 4th season hunts come back?

I have heard that there will be no 4th hunts this year. I would expect moderate tag increases like last year as long as the winter is average.

Umpqua Hunter
01-02-2014, 12:32 PM
If they start issuing 4th season tags in the near future, the good news is the 3rd season tags will go on sale :)

Musket Man
01-02-2014, 07:10 PM
I think point creep will get worse as deer recover because I think alot of guys with quite a few points have been sitting out of the draw and just getting points waiting for things to get better and will start entering the draw again once things start looking up.

adamwipp
01-02-2014, 07:32 PM
I think point creep will get worse as deer recover because I think alot of guys with quite a few points have been sitting out of the draw and just getting points waiting for things to get better and will start entering the draw again once things start looking up.


I think your right about tags getting harder to draw in the near future. I've been hoping to draw unit 66 third season but it keeps going up by more than 1 point a year. I used to be 1 point behind now I'm 2 points away from drawing. From what I've heard so far it sounds like 67 hasn't completely re covered, but I think it's my best option if I want to hunt anytime soon.

In God We Trust
01-02-2014, 09:46 PM
It will probably take another 2 good winters before they open up 4th season hunts again.

packmule
01-02-2014, 11:35 PM
I've been pretty much every year since 2007 except for this yr due to having a newborn learning new things. The guy I normally go with ended up shooting a 31" low 180s buck on the last day. That's one of those hunts where if you know where the deer tend to congregate before crossing units you can shoot a 180s if you lay off the trigger. Know of 2 over 200 that came off 3rd this past season.

packmule
01-02-2014, 11:37 PM
I think point creep will get worse as deer recover because I think alot of guys with quite a few points have been sitting out of the draw and just getting points waiting for things to get better and will start entering the draw again once things start looking up.


That's what our crew has been doing. Everyone is sitting between 13-22pts. The high pt man is just waiting on a 4th to open and will hunt it 3rd off vouchers every yr until it happens.

adamwipp
01-03-2014, 04:07 PM
I've hunted the Gunnison basin several times. The word I got in 2012 was that Unit 67 was coming back the best of the Gunnison basin units, not that 67 was fully back, but was the best on it's way to recovery.

The draw in for Unit 67 3rd season was as follows:

2010: 8.5% with 6 points
2011: 16.7% with 7 points
2012: 83.3% with 9 points
2013: 50% with 11 points
I read through the statistics page on cdow Web site again and I'm still coming up with 12 points to draw last year? Not sure what I'm doing wrong. Do you know exactly how many tags were given to non residents? I thought it was 9

Umpqua Hunter
01-03-2014, 04:33 PM
I read through the statistics page on cdow Web site again and I'm still coming up with 12 points to draw last year? Not sure what I'm doing wrong. Do you know exactly how many tags were given to non residents? I thought it was 9

I'm pulling the stats off of Hunter's Trailhead. They are claiming 11 tags went to non-residents in 2013.

goindeep
01-11-2014, 07:07 AM
It looks like you can draw with 11. 12 would have guaranteed the tag.

packmule
01-11-2014, 09:13 AM
66 is coming back pretty good too although some of it can be contributed to migrating deer off 67. The East side of 67 still isn't doing that well but that side got hammered a lot harder.

Huntn4Wapiti
03-02-2014, 05:22 PM
Pack mule I've heard the same thing. So much so that as a resident in CO I'm evaluating putting in for unit 67 3rd season this year. Not familiar with the unit and it would be my first dive in for a trophy muley. Point creep is making it a hard choice though as I know the points I have saved will be worth more than points gathered later down the road if I spend em this year.

Is scouting a challenge in this unit with the migratory patterns or does a first time chaser DIY public guy have a good shot at a 180+? Appreciate any insights.

packmule
03-03-2014, 08:54 PM
There's a decent shot at it bc it's a premium tag. Scouting helps out a lot and it can be done without ever leaving a rd if it's done during the 2nd/3rd season split. I wouldn't put much faith in late summer scouting.

xtreme
03-04-2014, 06:56 AM
Good advice packmule. I saw some deer in the sage recently, well November, none were shooters. I am confident I can find a 190 plus in unit 67. I have scouted it 4 times and hunted it once. I sure left some good ones there. This should be an easy hunt so don't make it unnecessarily hard.

packmule
03-04-2014, 08:32 PM
Reliable hunter gave me location of 200, I found my own 190 the evening before season opened. hunted him hard and later that day I saw his does too late for me.

It got unreal after that snow storm came in the last cpl days of the season.

Was that 200 the "reliable hunter" informed you of a big, wide 4pt (guess 5pt if you count brow tines) typical?

chukar
03-07-2014, 09:41 AM
Do you think 67 is a better choice than 66? 66 seems a little harder to draw, but they are right next to each other.

adamwipp
03-08-2014, 08:05 AM
From what I've heard 66 is a little better, more public land in 66 also. I personally would put in for 66 if I had the points.

packmule
03-08-2014, 08:23 AM
It's supposed to be better, I haven't really seen anything to justify it.

Ridn9high
03-12-2014, 12:45 PM
I'm sitting on 8 NR points and am leaning towards 67 2nd season for this years hunt. How's the hunting during 2nd season? I've been doing a lot of research in a couple units, and I keep going back and wanting to do this hunt. Any info for 2nd season?

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adamwipp
03-12-2014, 06:52 PM
I've only been in 67 during muzzy season, but the success numbers for 2nd season seem pretty good. I think cdow reported 75-80 % kill last year.

packmule
03-12-2014, 07:34 PM
It's a "100%" unit with a rifle if you don't really care what you're shooting......and is what tends to happen as the season winds down. So I wouldn't really say the success rate reflect quality, only a handful will shoot that.