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arrowslinger21
05-09-2011, 02:00 PM
Went out this last weekend for some bear hunting action here in Oregon. It was my buddies first ever bear hunt, and we ended up taking a pretty nice one. i am estimating his live weight between 250 and 275, and he has an absolutely beautiful coat on him. Pictures and the entire story as to how the whole trip played out is up on my blog at the link below. Had a great time, and couldn't have asked for a better result in getting a great friend a great bear.
Kevin

http://kevinunderwoodbowhunting.blogspot.com/2011/05/nates-first-bear.html

arrowslinger21
05-09-2011, 05:10 PM
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twp1224
05-09-2011, 05:47 PM
Great looking bear and a great story to go with it. Congrats!

sjsmallfield
05-09-2011, 06:59 PM
Nice bear!!! Can't wait to try for one myself this coming fall.

Skybuster1329
05-09-2011, 10:55 PM
Nice Bear. Getting ready to go in a week.

Joe Hulburt
05-09-2011, 11:24 PM
It's not very often somebody posts a blatant account of poaching on the internet. In case you didn't know arrowslinger, here in Oregon it is illegal to shoot a big game animal if you don't have a tag which clearly you didn't based on your blog. I really doubt that the Eastmans developed this forum for you to boast about poaching.

It's really a bummer as that would have been a nice bear to hunt legally.

arrowslinger21
05-10-2011, 09:00 AM
It's not very often somebody posts a blatant account of poaching on the internet. In case you didn't know arrowslinger, here in Oregon it is illegal to shoot a big game animal if you don't have a tag which clearly you didn't based on your blog. I really doubt that the Eastmans developed this forum for you to boast about poaching.

It's really a bummer as that would have been a nice bear to hunt legally.

This bear was taken with a tag and was hunted legally and with fair chase. I know this went all around the internet last night, and most of the posts got taken down by the other forums, but it really would be nice if people would ask a question or two before making assumptions and claims when no one making the claims was there. I am posting the picture of the tag on my blog as well, which was punched on site. We worked our @$$ off for this bear, and I would have not posted the story to incriminate myself. If we wanted to poach a bear we would shot the first one we saw that had two cubs and that was 5 miles closer to the truck.

elkmtngear
05-10-2011, 09:46 AM
Congrats, nice bear with a beautiful coat! You guys earned that one!

Best of Luck,
Jeff

Joe Hulburt
05-10-2011, 02:06 PM
This bear was taken with a tag and was hunted legally and with fair chase. I know this went all around the internet last night, and most of the posts got taken down by the other forums, but it really would be nice if people would ask a question or two before making assumptions and claims when no one making the claims was there. I am posting the picture of the tag on my blog as well, which was punched on site. We worked our @$$ off for this bear, and I would have not posted the story to incriminate myself. If we wanted to poach a bear we would shot the first one we saw that had two cubs and that was 5 miles closer to the truck.

There was ONE tag and three shooters. That is poaching. But hey, I'm glad you didn't shoot the one with cubs.

EDIT - I see you edited out the part where you and your buddy (also without a tag) both shot and hit the bear in additon to the guy with the tag. Now it was a one shot kill. Wow! Nice job....

arrowslinger21
05-10-2011, 05:44 PM
There was ONE tag and three shooters. That is poaching. But hey, I'm glad you didn't shoot the one with cubs.

EDIT - I see you edited out the part where you and your buddy (also without a tag) both shot and hit the bear in additon to the guy with the tag. Now it was a one shot kill. Wow! Nice job....

I never wrote it was a one shot kill. I simply deleted the other part out for the time being last night on my break at work to avoid some of the drama. What would you have done with a bear running at you and the only guy with a tag being out of shells? as in completely out and no more on his person. I wasn't going to take a chance especially with the bear being inside of 80 yards. The bear was fatally hit, and he was becoming a threat to our safety. I would assume that most guys would also shoot a charging bear, and I would like to be able to say that I didnt have to, but the truth of the matter is that I determined in a split second decision that I needed to act, and so I did. I never wanted to shoot the bear, as it was not my kill, and I wanted my buddy to have the full experience of knowing he took his first bear completely on his own. I have already talked the whole situation over with OSP, as I had already notified them on my own, and let them know what happened so I would appreciate it if people would at least ask me about the situation before they accuse me of being a poacher. I have never tried to poach an animal, and I never plan on doing so. I took the action necessary to be safe given the circumstances, and the outcome is what I wrote about. If this is still your definition of a poacher then so be it, but then that is going to include a lot more people then just me who had to act in a very fast situation. I have been mock charged by two different bears before on seperate accounts, and I never shot them, but this situation was different, and I did what I deemed necessary and I have no regrets for doing so. People calling the bear a hoax, and shame that he was killed is far from the truth though. We worked extremely hard out of a bivouacing setup to just get to the bear, and spent two days to get within shooting range as we tried to follow him. My buddy put in more than enough work to deserve the bear, and to say anything else just isn't right. He legally had a tag, and legally shot the bear. I told him before he shot that I was not going to shoot after him, or follow up his shot, and I only ended up doing so when he was out of bullets, and the situation required it. You would think some fellow hunters would realize this type of situation, and not be so eager to jump all over some hard hunting DIY guys trying to do things the right way. Then again, I guess some guys just want to see others have less success than themselves.

IL Hntr
05-10-2011, 07:08 PM
Great story and a beautiful bear. Congrats!!

Joe Hulburt
05-10-2011, 09:20 PM
If you don't get a ticket from OSP I guess I will owe you an apology Kevin. I've never in my life heard of a case where three guys went out packing rifles and shooting at a bear to fill one tag and they got away with it. Seems really strange to me! I've taken 12 year olds out to kill bears and it NEVER occurred to me to be packing a rifle if I had no tag.

arrowslinger21
05-10-2011, 09:55 PM
It is perfectly legal to carry rifles without a bear tag due to the fact that we both had cougar tags. A buddy went with me two years ago when I had a bear tag and had a cougar tag an carried a rifle an got a shot at one. He shot over it, but the point being that we see a large amount of cougar sign on every spring bear trip due to elk concentrations that are pushed down from higher elevations due to snow pack. There are a ton of cats here in Oregon and I am allfor taking any cat that I have the chance to legally. That's the reason I was carrying a rifle. I would not carry a rifle without a valid cat tag, but I do cat hunt still while bear hunting, including using predator calls. While I did not find one this spring, I saw three last year alone during bow season, and so i want to be able to make sure I am able to take one if the opportunity is present.

arrowslinger21
05-10-2011, 10:37 PM
Also I will just add one more thing before I will be done with this thread. I have shot 4 bears myself out of the same area, all with valid tags, and I guided my brother to his first bear last when I also had a valid tag, but did not shoot at the bear as it was not needed. I felt no need going into the hunt to get my turn on a bear, and I only did what came as a necessary reaction in a very fast moving situation. I will answer to anyone that I need to for my actions, as I am man enough to accept what I deemed necessary. It has been an interesting couple of days with this topic, but I am now moving on from it as far as this thread goes. Thanks everyone for all the comments both positive and negative on the situation.

JNDEER
05-12-2011, 12:47 PM
Also I will just add one more thing before I will be done with this thread. I have shot 4 bears myself out of the same area, all with valid tags, and I guided my brother to his first bear last when I also had a valid tag, but did not shoot at the bear as it was not needed. I felt no need going into the hunt to get my turn on a bear, and I only did what came as a necessary reaction in a very fast moving situation. I will answer to anyone that I need to for my actions, as I am man enough to accept what I deemed necessary. It has been an interesting couple of days with this topic, but I am now moving on from it as far as this thread goes. Thanks everyone for all the comments both positive and negative on the situation.

Hope you have a quide license!

Seriously, I know that you meant you "helped" your brother get a bear (at least I hope so), but you should be careful what you post on the internet.