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sdebrot
02-04-2014, 01:52 PM
My buddy and I are sitting on 5 deer points for Wyoming and are trying to figure out where to hunt. Trying to decide between a few different areas that have high success rates with some decent trophy potential. Right now I'm looking at area 34, 37, 84 and 60 with the first two mentioned being the most likely. Would love any input anyone has on which hunt would be the best. Trophy potential is a consideration along with an overall fun hunt where a guy could hunt hard and see some bucks. Not looking to hunt private land where I have to pay a trespass fee. Thanks for any advice you might have.

Umpqua Hunter
02-04-2014, 02:00 PM
My buddy and I are sitting on 5 deer points for Wyoming and are trying to figure out where to hunt. Trying to decide between a few different areas that have high success rates with some decent trophy potential. Right now I'm looking at area 34, 37, 84 and 60 with the first two mentioned being the most likely. Would love any input anyone has on which hunt would be the best. Trophy potential is a consideration along with an overall fun hunt where a guy could hunt hard and see some bucks. Not looking to hunt private land where I have to pay a trespass fee. Thanks for any advice you might have.

Your choices are going to be limited for a very long time with 3 less than max points. Realize trophy potential is down pretty much statewide in Wyoming.

NDHunter
02-04-2014, 02:01 PM
And so it continues...

Joined 2 years ago and this is your first post?

Eberle
02-04-2014, 03:11 PM
I'd scratch 84! Good luck

Fink
02-04-2014, 03:45 PM
And so it continues...

Joined 2 years ago and this is your first post?

Maybe he's just shy?

sdebrot
02-04-2014, 04:04 PM
And so it continues...

Joined 2 years ago and this is your first post?

Yes you are quite observant it is my first post and I would expect a much better response than yours from a senior member. Hopefully not all members of this sight are as arrogant as you.

tdub24
02-04-2014, 04:10 PM
On your first post after signing up 2 years ago, you are asking folks that have put in hours of research to tell you where the best hunt is then question why NDHunter is hesitant to give you any information. Did you expect senior members to give you which drainage, water hole, and the herd patterns as well?

tdub24
02-04-2014, 04:23 PM
Its pretty funny how many different units I have found out to be good or bad throughout all the west without asking a single question. If I choose to hunt another state, I pretty much know where to go and for what hunts, just by reading threads all ready existing on this website. I find it hard to believe I am the only one capable of reading old posts...........but who knows.

Sorry...........rant over!

sdebrot
02-04-2014, 04:34 PM
On your first post after signing up 2 years ago, you are asking folks that have put in hours of research to tell you where the best hunt is then question why NDHunter is hesitant to give you any information. Did you expect senior members to give you which drainage, water hole, and the herd patterns as well?

Actually I have done lots of research along with many, many years of hunting Wyoming and many other states. My post was quite specific as to which areas I was looking at and I didn't ask for any specifics and never thought I would get any. Just looking for solid advice from someone with experience in these areas. Basically it's a good hunt or over rated. Sorry if I stepped on anyone's toes by making this my first post. As of joining two years ago it was a shock to me when I went to register that I was already a member on this site. As the deadline for submitting applications is mid March I really don't want to lolly-gag on asking questions.

tdub24
02-04-2014, 04:38 PM
Actually I have done lots of research along with many, many years of hunting Wyoming and many other states. My post was quite specific as to which areas I was looking at and I didn't ask for any specifics and never thought I would get any. Just looking for solid advice from someone with experience in these areas. Basically it's a good hunt or over rated. Sorry if I stepped on anyone's toes by making this my first post. As of joining two years ago it was a shock to me when I went to register that I was already a member on this site. As the deadline for submitting applications is mid March I really don't want to lolly-gag on asking questions.

Alright, like I said......rant over. Good luck this season, maybe someone will chime in to give you the answers you seek!

Musket Man
02-04-2014, 09:11 PM
Actually I have done lots of research along with many, many years of hunting Wyoming and many other states. My post was quite specific as to which areas I was looking at and I didn't ask for any specifics and never thought I would get any. Just looking for solid advice from someone with experience in these areas. Basically it's a good hunt or over rated. Sorry if I stepped on anyone's toes by making this my first post. As of joining two years ago it was a shock to me when I went to register that I was already a member on this site. As the deadline for submitting applications is mid March I really don't want to lolly-gag on asking questions.

What advise are you willing to share on the areas you have hunted? You joined the form 2 years ago and you have hunted WY many times, yet in 2 years you have not offered one word of advise to anyone. This is a great form because there are alot of very dedicated hunters on here helping eachother and sharing alot of good information but its a give and take situation and if you had actively participated at any level since you joined everyone here would be alot more receptive to helping you now. Every year we get a bunch of first time posters asking for info, we give them some good advise and most times never even get a thankyou or another post from them. I get PM's every year about areas I have hunted, I answer with the best info and advise I have and never hear another word. It gets very frustrating to say the least. If you truely want some good advise start a new thread, introduce yourself and tell us a little about yourself and your hunting experiences, actively participate on the form, and Im sure you will get alot better response to your questions.

sdebrot
02-05-2014, 04:19 AM
What advise are you willing to share on the areas you have hunted? You joined the form 2 years ago and you have hunted WY many times, yet in 2 years you have not offered one word of advise to anyone. This is a great form because there are alot of very dedicated hunters on here helping eachother and sharing alot of good information but its a give and take situation and if you had actively participated at any level since you joined everyone here would be alot more receptive to helping you now. Every year we get a bunch of first time posters asking for info, we give them some good advise and most times never even get a thankyou or another post from them. I get PM's every year about areas I have hunted, I answer with the best info and advise I have and never hear another word. It gets very frustrating to say the least. If you truely want some good advise start a new thread, introduce yourself and tell us a little about yourself and your hunting experiences, actively participate on the form, and Im sure you will get alot better response to your questions.

Okay, obviously there is a right to passage on this sight. Sorry for stepping on toes. As far as no post in two years I think I clarified that one. I will take your advice and start another thread introducing myself. Thank you

NDHunter
02-05-2014, 06:44 AM
As the deadline for submitting applications is mid March I really don't want to lolly-gag on asking questions.

Just some fyi, the deadline will be mid-March like you said but you will also have about a 2 month period called the "modification period" to change your application. Basically you'll have until probably May or June 1 to change the units on your application if you change your mind on your original applied-for units.. It is kind of a nice option to have...

sdebrot
02-05-2014, 07:22 AM
Just some fyi, the deadline will be mid-March like you said but you will also have about a 2 month period called the "modification period" to change your application. Basically you'll have until probably May or June 1 to change the units on your application if you change your mind on your original applied-for units.. It is kind of a nice option to have...

The ability to change your mind after submitting your application is something I didn't know. Thank you very much! That could be a very useful tool considering the possibility of weather messing up an area.

JMBC
02-05-2014, 09:25 AM
Rite of passage,haha. Its like a mafia thing on all forums. And the "don" hasn't been on the thread to rip ya yet!



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bcdeer
02-05-2014, 10:42 AM
I thought you were doing good to ask about several units potential well before the deadline. Wy weather can really jack up the deer hunting from year to year and this is suppose to be one of many ways to do your research. It's not like you got drawn and are then asking where to hunt in that unit. Good luck in the draw and if you ever need info in Az I will be happy to pass on any info

HiMtnHnter
02-05-2014, 12:04 PM
I thought you were doing good to ask about several units potential well before the deadline. Wy weather can really jack up the deer hunting from year to year and this is suppose to be one of many ways to do your research. It's not like you got drawn and are then asking where to hunt in that unit. Good luck in the draw and if you ever need info in Az I will be happy to pass on any info

I don't see anything wrong with what the guy is asking either. Tough crowd. Any of those areas could give you what you're after. 84 is mostly private. 60 is as well, but there's reasonably productive public land. The other two are probably the better of the lot. Flip a coin.

sdebrot
02-05-2014, 04:16 PM
Just got off the phone with a game warden for area 34 and his report was less then stellar. His suggestion was to keep building points due to the last few years of lousy weather. Which is pretty much what the advice in the MRS section of Eastman's magazine is suggesting. Just hate the thought of donating more money to Wyoming. All this point building in various states gets expensive after a while.

Musket Man
02-05-2014, 04:41 PM
I am building deer points in Wy and waiting to see what happens too. Seems alot harder to find good deer units you can draw with out alot of points then for anything else.

mattdeere
02-05-2014, 10:51 PM
Sdebrot & Musket Man, how many points do you guys have?

Musket Man
02-05-2014, 11:11 PM
Sdebrot & Musket Man, how many points do you guys have?

I have 3, would like to use them at around 5 but havent found a good place for that yet so I may end up saving more.

sdebrot
02-06-2014, 03:55 AM
Sdebrot & Musket Man, how many points do you guys have?

I am sitting on 7, with my buddy having 3. I screwed up last year and forgot to buy a point eliminating me from being at the top of the pile for those real stellar units. Figured I might as well include him and we would average out at 5. It's enough points to draw most other units.

DoubleTrouble
02-06-2014, 03:55 AM
Just got off the phone with a game warden for area 34 and his report was less then stellar. His suggestion was to keep building points due to the last few years of lousy weather. Which is pretty much what the advice in the MRS section of Eastman's magazine is suggesting. Just hate the thought of donating more money to Wyoming. All this point building in various states gets expensive after a while.

I can't think of a better way to spend money!!! I am cashing in points and buying the special tag!

HiMtnHnter
02-06-2014, 09:28 AM
I can't think of a better way to spend money!!! I am cashing in points and buying the special tag!

The best thing you can do IMO is pick an area with good public land, decent numbers of deer and success, and go hunting. There's not going to be a "better time" unless you are referring to your personal schedule. This point hype is out of hand. . .

Musket Man
02-06-2014, 09:37 AM
Just got off the phone with a game warden for area 34 and his report was less then stellar. His suggestion was to keep building points due to the last few years of lousy weather. Which is pretty much what the advice in the MRS section of Eastman's magazine is suggesting.

I think alot of guys are doing this the last few years and many are buying points without entering the draw. Some drawing odds may get alot worse when the deer situation starts to improve and they start entering the draws.

mattdeere
02-06-2014, 09:55 AM
Any of you guys hunted Region G before? I know it's a well known unit and a lot have hunted it or at least heard about it.

bcdeer
02-06-2014, 10:52 AM
I have hunted it twice. Just put in for the "special tag" this morning with 2 points, Last year it was a 70 % draw. Both times I hunted there it kicked my butt and I swore I would not go back but the big bucks and beautiful country give me amnesia. 2 years ago I saw about a dozen 4 pts including one 180 buck. Of course he was the only one I wasn't ready for and in range! I have had the best luck going in where there are no trailheads which you can see pretty easily because of horse trailers parked there.

Fink
02-06-2014, 04:33 PM
Just got off the phone with a game warden for area 34 and his report was less then stellar. His suggestion was to keep building points due to the last few years of lousy weather. Which is pretty much what the advice in the MRS section of Eastman's magazine is suggesting. Just hate the thought of donating more money to Wyoming. All this point building in various states gets expensive after a while.

Yeesh... You know its bad when even the state employees don't try to paint the picture in a positive light.

sdebrot
02-06-2014, 04:40 PM
Any of you guys hunted Region G before? I know it's a well known unit and a lot have hunted it or at least heard about it.

My first hunt out west was in region G, it was the start of an addiction to hunting the mountains. However it was back in 1991 and I wouldn't be much help in advice for the area. I can tell you that I saw plenty of deer, elk and one big mountain lion at ten paces. I ended up getting the itchy trigger finger and shot a buck that while big for a Michigan boy wasn't much of a deer by western standards. My hunting partner shot a super nice 4 by 4 with a 26 inch spread. Trust me that is a rough 1500 mile ride home looking at what you should have waited for. One thing I remember real well about it was it was some rough country with some very steep slopes. I was lucky that I had horse power to get to the top, you might want to look into horses or be in really good shape if you go. Good Luck!

Musket Man
02-06-2014, 05:45 PM
Is the rough steep country in G fairly open so you can glass it pretty well or are there alot of trees and cover?

sdebrot
02-07-2014, 05:41 AM
Is the rough steep country in G fairly open so you can glass it pretty well or are there alot of trees and cover?

The area I was in was pretty open with patches of dark timber on the north slopes. Most of the deer were seen in the open, however I was on a guided hunt and the guide would do little deer drives by going into the timber during mid day. That was how I got my buck, they really do look a lot bigger when they are running, ha, ha.

Musket Man
02-07-2014, 11:29 AM
The area I was in was pretty open with patches of dark timber on the north slopes. Most of the deer were seen in the open, however I was on a guided hunt and the guide would do little deer drives by going into the timber during mid day. That was how I got my buck, they really do look a lot bigger when they are running, ha, ha.

Thanks for the info! I havent been to that part of WY yet.

MWScott72
02-07-2014, 01:19 PM
"I am sitting on 7, with my buddy having 3. I screwed up last year and forgot to buy a point eliminating me from being at the top of the pile for those real stellar units. Figured I might as well include him and we would average out at 5. It's enough points to draw most other units."

Sdebrot-
I did the same thing...forgot to put in for a point in 2006, and was under the impression I had max points until last year. That one point knocks you out of competition for just about all the top units for a long time. Did the same thing with elk too. Dang it all!

MWScott72
02-07-2014, 01:28 PM
Is the rough steep country in G fairly open so you can glass it pretty well or are there alot of trees and cover?

My wife's family camps up the Greys every summer for a week, and I've been up there a dozen times now since marrying my wife. One of these days I'm actually going to hunt it. There are plenty of open areas to glass - just depends on where you are. Plenty of thick stuff too, but it's nothing like the ID panhandle or Pacific Northwest.

Musket Man
02-07-2014, 01:39 PM
I forgot to buy a point for elk a couple years ago too. Kept thinking I had lots of time and would do it later and then I realized it was October. Now I make sure to buy them in July! lol Im no where close to having max points and Im not chasing units that take alot of points so Im sure it was alot more painful for you guys but I may end up applying in a different unit because of it.

MWScott72
02-07-2014, 02:27 PM
I wanted to hunt Unit 90, but with less than max points, that's pretty much a pipe dream for a LONG time now. Looks like it will be a different unit in the future. I'll be buying another point since I can't hunt WY this year due to money/time, AND the fact that I should pull an LE Muzz tag for elk here in UT. If I do that, it will take up the majority of my available time this fall.

sdebrot
02-07-2014, 04:24 PM
I wanted to hunt Unit 90, but with less than max points, that's pretty much a pipe dream for a LONG time now. Looks like it will be a different unit in the future. I'll be buying another point since I can't hunt WY this year due to money/time, AND the fact that I should pull an LE Muzz tag for elk here in UT. If I do that, it will take up the majority of my available time this fall.

I was saving points to hunt area 102. There is no way I'm going to keep that up until everybody with one point greater has used there's up. To much money and too much time, figured this year was a good one to burn them up.

Musket Man
02-07-2014, 05:22 PM
Some of the point creep is from tags being reduced in alot of areas. Hopefully things will get better the next few years and there will be more tags and slow down the point creep.

mattdeere
02-08-2014, 10:32 PM
Is the rough steep country in G fairly open so you can glass it pretty well or are there alot of trees and cover?

There are plenty of places in G that you can glass for miles. Everything from high country timber patch basins to lower country sage brush. One of the most beautiful places to hunt in the west! I guess that's why it's so popular.

sdebrot
02-26-2014, 06:20 PM
As the time gets closer to putting in my buddy and I are leaning towards area 37. Both the biologist and the warden gave a good report on the area and I like the odds of success for the area. Even if half the unit is private there still is a lot of public hunting area left. Anybody have any reason that 37 would be a bad choice?

Just DIY
02-26-2014, 11:37 PM
Well I would say that although there are highs and lows with herds based on a multitude of factors you have to just pick and go put boots on the ground. If you are only going off of numbers on paper you could be setting your expectations up for failure. With the points you have it is kind of hard to beat region G plus you don't lock yourselves into only one unit, if you don't like what you are seeing you have plenty of room to travel/explore. Based on my conversation with Todd Graham (region G biologist) on 1/16/2014 the herd is on a solid rebound form the 2010 winter. Not to steer you away from your plan, just more food for thought. I believe as long as you put boots on the ground, hunt hard, and spend the time behind the glass you can create success in any state/unit!

mattdeere
02-27-2014, 12:26 AM
Well I would say that although there are highs and lows with herds based on a multitude of factors you have to just pick and go put boots on the ground. If you are only going off of numbers on paper you could be setting your expectations up for failure. With the points you have it is kind of hard to beat region G plus you don't lock yourselves into only one unit, if you don't like what you are seeing you have plenty of room to travel/explore. Based on my conversation with Todd Graham (region G biologist) on 1/16/2014 the herd is on a solid rebound form the 2010 winter. Not to steer you away from your plan, just more food for thought. I believe as long as you put boots on the ground, hunt hard, and spend the time behind the glass you can create success in any state/unit!

A very true statement.

mnhoundman
02-27-2014, 07:42 AM
As the time gets closer to putting in my buddy and I are leaning towards area 37. Both the biologist and the warden gave a good report on the area and I like the odds of success for the area. Even if half the unit is private there still is a lot of public hunting area left. Anybody have any reason that 37 would be a bad choice?

I was just looking at that area also. Wonder if you get a GPS map, you probably could get in there easier. Can't find much info on it though, I have 4 points this year. Still trying to decide.

sdebrot
03-02-2014, 05:45 PM
I was just looking at that area also. Wonder if you get a GPS map, you probably could get in there easier. Can't find much info on it though, I have 4 points this year. Still trying to decide.

Based on the land status map I looked at and the Wyoming Game and Fish sight for walk in areas access is pretty straight forward. The north half of the unit is accessable and the south half is pretty much private. Some of the ranches will let you hunt for a fee, that was the word from the biologist.

sdebrot
03-02-2014, 05:51 PM
Well I would say that although there are highs and lows with herds based on a multitude of factors you have to just pick and go put boots on the ground. If you are only going off of numbers on paper you could be setting your expectations up for failure. With the points you have it is kind of hard to beat region G plus you don't lock yourselves into only one unit, if you don't like what you are seeing you have plenty of room to travel/explore. Based on my conversation with Todd Graham (region G biologist) on 1/16/2014 the herd is on a solid rebound form the 2010 winter. Not to steer you away from your plan, just more food for thought. I believe as long as you put boots on the ground, hunt hard, and spend the time behind the glass you can create success in any state/unit!

My memory of region G is from 23 years ago and I remember it as some steep and tall mountains. While I'm still in good shape, tall and steep takes alot of fun out of a hunt, especially when there are other options.

Againstthewind
03-27-2014, 10:56 PM
I didn't read all of these, hope I don't repeat too much. I agree, 84 is railroad checkerboard and hard to hunt public. There are places to go, but its hard. 60 is a tough draw. I have been trying there for awhile. There are deer and places to go there, but it is pretty popular with the locals. Don't know anything about 37. In 34 I see big deer on the road down that way all the time, but I haven't hunted there. Of those areas, I would say 34. There are lots of opinions to go through though. 34 probably has some of the best access of the locations you mentioned, too. It will take some research to find the places to go, as you can see the locals can be protective of their spots.

My grandpa used to hunt Region G and H-or there abouts. He got some dandies out of the Wyoming Range and the Mesa. It sounds like it might be bouncing back, that might be some good news. I think there is some good genetics for big deer in G and H. I am not an expert, though. Only the public areas are steep and rough. Just kidding. It is some beautiful country.