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libidilatimmy
03-14-2014, 02:03 PM
Let's try this with a Muley since the NR deadline is drawing near. This buck was taken in 2008 in central Wyo.

8871

8872

ando_31
03-14-2014, 02:44 PM
Euro's are always tough. I use the ears as my main factor in sizing up the width and point length. 155

Timberstalker
03-14-2014, 02:46 PM
159, how far off am I?

Granby guy
03-14-2014, 02:47 PM
With the cheaters I'll say 167

libidilatimmy
03-14-2014, 03:09 PM
Euro's are always tough. I use the ears as my main factor in sizing up the width and point length. 155

That is the point.:)

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libidilatimmy
03-14-2014, 03:16 PM
I'll give you a hint, the G4 on his left side is 8.5"

Jrod
03-14-2014, 03:17 PM
157 4/8. Deep forks, good main beams, killer eyeguards and junk. I would kill that buck everyday.

kesand72
03-14-2014, 03:24 PM
170ish gross.

Hilltop
03-14-2014, 03:40 PM
159-163 is my guess. I don't get to score many of these guys so I may be off a bit?

Average mass = 18.5+18.5=37"
Main beams = 19+19 = 38"
Spread = 21"
Tines = 30"+35"= 65"

Total = 161

Thanks for doing this post- love these things.

Ikeepitcold
03-14-2014, 03:50 PM
Nope. Can't do it

ando_31
03-14-2014, 04:00 PM
With that g4 hint I would stick with my initial guess. I suppose it really determines what scoring system you use. If it is gross then I suppose the cheaters probably add another 7 inches or so to my initial guess. 155-162

velvetfvr
03-14-2014, 04:37 PM
158" would be my guess

kiddwinner
03-14-2014, 04:46 PM
Id say 173" total guess...

Bitterroot Bulls
03-14-2014, 04:54 PM
What the hey, I blew the other one... :)

174. Those extra points help out the 165ish frame.

libidilatimmy
03-14-2014, 05:02 PM
http://www.boone-crockett.org/bgRecords/bc_scoring_typmuledeer.asp?area=bgRecords&type=Typical+Mule+Deer+%26+Blacktail

This is how he was scored to clear it up.

Topgun 30-06
03-14-2014, 05:22 PM
I'll go with 150"

Squirrel tail
03-14-2014, 05:29 PM
158" thats my guess

rob270340
03-14-2014, 05:29 PM
Gross score with cheaters, I'd say 173". Nice buck for sure

mt-mike
03-14-2014, 06:19 PM
I think 171 gross

Musket Man
03-14-2014, 07:23 PM
I like him, he's got character! But Im going to be the low guy again and give him 135.

Timberstalker
03-14-2014, 07:26 PM
I like him, he's got character! But Im going to be the low guy again and give him 135.

Dude, it's not a Blacktail!

swampokie
03-14-2014, 07:40 PM
ur outta ur mind. 176

Musket Man
03-14-2014, 07:48 PM
Dude, it's not a Blacktail!

Maybe its the pic but my 146 net buck looks like a monster compared to him. I like him alot but he just looks light with short mainbeams. If it makes you feel any better I debated between 135 and 140 for a while. LOL! Besides this wouldnt be any fun if we all guessed within 3" of eachother!!!!

Topgun 30-06
03-14-2014, 07:49 PM
Dude, it's not a Blacktail!

Dude, nobody said it was, LOL! For the swampokie comment about the guess MM made, I'll bet MM is closer to the actual score when it comes out than you are with your guess!

Topgun 30-06
03-14-2014, 07:51 PM
Maybe its the pic but my 146 net buck looks like a monster compared to him. I like him alot but he just looks light with short mainbeams. If it makes you feel any better I debated between 135 and 140 for a while. LOL! Besides this wouldnt be any fun if we all guessed within 3" of eachother!!!!


See my other post MM, as I'm with you on this one. My best mulie is better than this one and is in the mid 150s. That's why I went with 150" on this one and I think I may be a little generous with that guess.

swampokie
03-14-2014, 07:54 PM
well maybe u got a point but still way too low

BigSurArcher
03-14-2014, 07:58 PM
177 Gross, and I feel like this is conservative. I can't see what a lot of you think this buck is missing, besides width, which doesn't mean much. The fronts are deceivingly good, and it carries some mass up high. None of the forks are weak if his left G4 is over 8".

Timberstalker
03-14-2014, 07:59 PM
Dude, nobody said it was, LOL! For the swampokie comment about the guess MM made, I'll bet MM is closer to the actual score when it comes out than you are with your guess!

I know, but 135 is a Blacktail #! I like messin' with MM. He can take it..

Eberle
03-14-2014, 08:04 PM
I'll shoot low to keep heat off MM! 148

swampokie
03-14-2014, 08:08 PM
Don't we put too much emphasis on score Whatever the score I would be proud 2 have him GREAT DEER

Musket Man
03-14-2014, 08:18 PM
Don't we put too much emphasis on score Whatever the score I would be proud 2 have him GREAT DEER

I could care less about score! If I like him I try to kill him and if I ran into that buck he would be as dead as I could make him! Even if he only scores 135;)

Topgun 30-06
03-14-2014, 08:24 PM
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Don't we put too much emphasis on score Whatever the score I would be proud 2 have him GREAT DEER

Nobody said anything different and we're just guessing, but it's obvious a lot of people haven't seen a true 175" buck. This buck is my best and went 155" with 5 1/4" bases and great fronts. That's why I made the 150" guess on the OP picture, which is definitely a nice buck too.

Musket Man
03-14-2014, 08:28 PM
Nice blacktail Topgun;)

swampokie
03-14-2014, 08:30 PM
ok ok I would guess ur buck at 160 so ill lower my guess to 171. still both fine bucks. maybe the missing ears are throwing me off

Topgun 30-06
03-14-2014, 08:34 PM
Thanks MM, LOL!!!

marcusvdk
03-14-2014, 08:42 PM
Nice buck topgun.

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marcusvdk
03-14-2014, 08:43 PM
I would guess the the score of the buck to be 144

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Musket Man
03-14-2014, 08:45 PM
ok ok I would guess ur buck at 160 so ill lower my guess to 171. still both fine bucks. maybe the missing ears are throwing me off

NO changing guesses! You will stick with your first guess to the end!!!! HAHAHAHAHA;)

Musket Man
03-14-2014, 08:49 PM
Thanks MM, LOL!!!

Is that a pre 64 model 70 Winchester?

Topgun 30-06
03-14-2014, 08:54 PM
Is that a pre 64 model 70 Winchester?

Yep, a 30-06 with a 3x9x40mm Leupold VXII on it and Leupold rings/bases/caps!

Musket Man
03-14-2014, 09:00 PM
Yep, a 30-06 with a 3x9x40mm Leupold VXII on it and Leupold rings/bases/caps!

I can spot a pre 64 model 70 about 10 miles away! lol Same gun and scope I hunt with other then mine is a 270 and I put a synthetic stock on it

Topgun 30-06
03-14-2014, 09:06 PM
I can spot a pre 64 model 70 about 10 miles away! lol Same gun and scope I hunt with other then mine is a 270 and I put a synthetic stock on it

This one is in mint condition and was passed down from my Dad like most everything else, shoots under MOA, and I won't touch it as far as any changes! I did have the trigger worked on when I got it and had it brought down to 2 1/2 pounds and that's all it has ever had done to it.

Musket Man
03-14-2014, 09:23 PM
This one is in mint condition and was passed down from my Dad like most everything else, shoots under MOA, and I won't touch it as far as any changes! I did have the trigger worked on when I got it and had it brought down to 2 1/2 pounds and that's all it has ever had done to it.

Most of why I put the synthetic on mine was so I wouldnt beat the origional wood stalk up which is in very nice shape and I still have it. Someone drilled 3 holes for a detachable scope mount in it and I got it for about 1/2 what it would be worth without those 3 holes. Mine is very accurate too!

Hilltop
03-14-2014, 09:49 PM
8878

Nobody said anything different and we're just guessing, but it's obvious a lot of people haven't seen a true 175" buck. This buck is my best and went 155" with 5 1/4" bases and great fronts. That's why I made the 150" guess on the OP picture, which is definitely a nice buck too.

Nice buck! In my opinion he would have been a shooter opening morning on every hunt I have been on.... I do think the OPs buck will score a bit better with the deeper back forks but not much. Again I could be way off as I only have one mounted mule deer for comparison. I'll post him as a follow up to this thread on another guess the score....

Ridn9high
03-14-2014, 09:52 PM
I'm giving it a 20" inside spread and a gross score of 162

Bitterroot Bulls
03-14-2014, 09:58 PM
8878

Nobody said anything different and we're just guessing, but it's obvious a lot of people haven't seen a true 175" buck. This buck is my best and went 155" with 5 1/4" bases and great fronts. That's why I made the 150" guess on the OP picture, which is definitely a nice buck too.

That is why pics are deceiving (As I well-learned in the elk thread), TG. I did a little quick and dirty layering in PS:


8882


I am NOT saying this is accurate, BTW. Just pointing out it is hard to tell!

BTW, some of us that guessed higher may well know what a 175 buck looks like, and still be wrong with our guess.

Alabama
03-14-2014, 09:58 PM
148 and change

Hilltop
03-14-2014, 10:04 PM
I like him, he's got character! But Im going to be the low guy again and give him 135.

?? Either i am super out of touch or you are just low balling for fun.... I may need to review my scoring techniques MM. 135?? I want you as a guide this fall. If you tell me he is a shooter I won't hesistate!!

Musket Man
03-14-2014, 10:16 PM
?? Either i am super out of touch or you are just low balling for fun.... I may need to review my scoring techniques MM. 135?? I want you as a guide this fall. If you tell me he is a shooter I won't hesistate!!

LOL I would always rather be low then high and from the pic I cant honestly say I think he scores more then that. Thats my guess and Im sticking to it no matter how wrong it is! lol

wapiti66
03-14-2014, 10:27 PM
Im sayin 165

gonhunting247
03-14-2014, 10:29 PM
He's a shooter, that's all I think about at crunch time. I'll go with the high guess 175 When you grow up hunting Blacktails in the brush all those muleys look big:)

NVBird'n'Big
03-14-2014, 10:31 PM
From the hip, 171

Hilltop
03-14-2014, 10:37 PM
[QUOTE=Musket Man;82724]LOL I would always rather be low then high and from the pic I cant honestly say I think he scores more then that. Thats my guess and Im sticking to it no matter how wrong it is! lol[/QUOTE

I can respect that.... for sure.

I have a whitetail in a plack mount that beats 135 that looks much smaller than this mount. If that buck is less than 150, I would be astonished. My whitetail scores 141....

BigSurArcher
03-14-2014, 11:12 PM
8878

Nobody said anything different and we're just guessing, but it's obvious a lot of people haven't seen a true 175" buck. This buck is my best and went 155" with 5 1/4" bases and great fronts. That's why I made the 150" guess on the OP picture, which is definitely a nice buck too.

The one we are posting guesses for will score considerably higher than this buck.

ando_31
03-15-2014, 06:36 AM
drum roll..........

BKC
03-15-2014, 09:27 AM
When you get the score on that one figured out let me know what this one scores because I have no clue !!!88858884

Musket Man
03-15-2014, 09:30 AM
When you get the score on that one figured out let me know what this one scores because I have no clue !!!88858884

This is the score I came up with. lol

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Topgun 30-06
03-15-2014, 09:38 AM
This is the score I came up with. lol

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On this one we can definitely agree, LOL!

BKC
03-15-2014, 09:58 AM
88868887 Don't know what happened to the last post but here they are again/

Musket Man
03-15-2014, 10:13 AM
Its still doing the same thing BKC.

BKC
03-15-2014, 10:23 AM
WTF ! I have no clue what is happening. Nevermind!!!!!

libidilatimmy
03-15-2014, 11:47 AM
Ok there's the measurements :
Inside Spread= 19 2/8
R. L.
2. 8 1/8. Junk
21 4/8. 20 7/8 Mains
4 3/8. 4 5/8 G1
15 5/8. 14 2/8 G2
9 2/8. 10 2/8 G3
9 7/8. 8 4/8 G4
16 3/8. 16 3/8 Mass

79. + 83 = 162

162. + 19 2/8 = 181 2/8 Gross

Thanks for playing :)

swampokie
03-15-2014, 11:54 AM
I obviously don't know what a 180 looks like either.

Timberstalker
03-15-2014, 11:57 AM
Bigger than I thought! Awesome buck!

libidilatimmy
03-15-2014, 12:10 PM
He's a 170 frame. Where this one excels is in mass and height. His lack of width is pretty common in that area but there are the occational 200" around there.

Topgun 30-06
03-15-2014, 12:17 PM
I guess in any more guessing contests we probably need to know whether the animal is being scored gross or net and typical or nontypical. Your score is obviously gross with no deducts on the first typical measurements, which would take him down into the 150s and a little more than I guessed net. He's definitely a shooter, one I would have not hesitated to pop, and the euro is cool!

swampokie
03-15-2014, 12:18 PM
Hes awesome. I hope to see one like him in a few months.

velvetfvr
03-15-2014, 12:20 PM
Ok there's the measurements :
Inside Spread= 19 2/8
R. L.
2. 8 1/8. Junk
21 4/8. 20 7/8 Mains
4 3/8. 4 5/8 G1
15 5/8. 14 2/8 G2
9 2/8. 10 2/8 G3
9 7/8. 8 4/8 G4
16 3/8. 16 3/8 Mass

79. + 83 = 162

162. + 19 2/8 = 181 2/8 Gross

Thanks for playing :)

Guess I wouldn't have experienced any ground shrinkage ;)!

swampokie
03-15-2014, 12:21 PM
that's spread I think

Bitterroot Bulls
03-15-2014, 12:22 PM
Those numbers are close to my guessed numbers, but I was short on the G1s and G2s. It is hard to see 4 1/2 inches of G1's even from the side angle, but as we have discussed, pics are tough.

Awesome buck.

Topgun 30-06
03-15-2014, 12:27 PM
[QUOTE=swampokie;82865]that's spread I think[/QUOTE

Yep, just did an edit, as I figured it out myself and also looked closer to see the "junk" numbers, LOL! It was hard for me with my bad eyes looking at all those numbers for both sides the way they were all jammed together the way things do when you make a post even when you initially have them spaced to be readable. Is there an easy way when you do numbers like that to get them to stay split and apart so they are easy to read? Thanks!!!

libidilatimmy
03-15-2014, 12:38 PM
[QUOTE=swampokie;82865]that's spread I think[/QUOTE

Yep, just did an edit, as I figured it out myself and also looked closer to see the "junk" numbers, LOL! It was hard for me with my bad eyes looking at all those numbers for both sides the way they were all jammed together the way things do when you make a post even when you initially have them spaced to be readable. Is there an easy way when you do numbers like that to get them to stay split and apart so they are easy to read? Thanks!!!

Yeah, it looked nice and organized on my phone, and then like crap once posted. Maybe using the tab key would keep it lined up?

Musket Man
03-15-2014, 01:25 PM
I knew I was within 100;)

ando_31
03-15-2014, 03:15 PM
Good buck. 180s usually have the hide on the mount around here :p

BigSurArcher
03-15-2014, 07:53 PM
Nice. I really wanted to say 180 but with so may lowballs, I kept second guessing. This buck has tons of features that scream MATURE BUCK. Not too many Wyoming muleys with those mature characteristics plus tine length are going to be below 170.

He's 164 7/8 Net, correct?

Squirrel tail
03-16-2014, 02:39 AM
well i was off by quite a bit.... wasn't the first time probably wont be the last.......by the way a very sweet buck you have there