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Fish
07-08-2011, 11:58 AM
I drew an area 74 antelope tag and 118 deer tag. I'm hoping the winter wasn't too hard on the antelope in that area. I'm hoping to score on a buck 78 or better and I hope this is still doable I'm also thinking about pushing my hunt in 74 until the second week in Oct so I won't have to make two trips from WA. Do you think this will really lessen my chances of finding a good buck. Any info on this area would be appreciated.

justinthedoc
07-15-2011, 02:02 PM
I will let you know it was a very hard winter this year in those areas 72-75. Hunting in October wont really make that much a difference, youll have more people hunting deer, but less hunting antelope so double edge there. Its going to be hard to find a 75+ goat in any of those areas specified. Its funny how the eastmans promote these areas, Especially 73, 74 and 75 generally the hardest winther kills other than shirley rim country. Most of the winter in those areas had 1-2 feet of packed snow. It was a rough one for antelope. Ive lived here for over thirty years and can tell you this ones going to be a tough year to find good anything.

chadderbox
07-15-2011, 05:32 PM
I also drew a 74 tag this year and I'm very excited about what I'm seeing for gaots... If you can't get a goat over 75" then you either miss judged or didn't try... The winter wasn't as bad as justin said... The forage is in excellent condition for producing whoppers!!! So good luck Fish...

ffd061
07-17-2011, 09:36 PM
Hunted in 74 last year. Was a fun hunt with alot of antelope. Looked over alot of bucks over 3 days and took the buck that is on my avatar pic. He ended up scoring 74 and some change, was very happy with him, as he was my first goat. Lots of BLM, state and WIA's to hunt. We went the second week of the season and didnt see any other hunters, bucks were also rutting very hard. Good luck, let us know how your hunts went. Will be back out in Wy this year chasing deer in Region M, if anyone has any advise for that area.

justinthedoc
07-18-2011, 01:01 PM
Apparently chadder wasnt out in that area at all during the winter months, and to tell people that your basically a idiot if you dont get a 75 inch or bigger antelope is wrong too. Oh and by the way the green grass this late is not necessarily a good thing, the grass in that area did not start to get green until about the first to middle part of june, so in years past it was getting green in late april and at the very least mid may, so you lost about a month to a month and a half of good growing, and fat strorage, which if you know anything about animals and horn or antler growth is essentail in getting the animals full potential. But anyway good luck to you...

chadderbox
07-19-2011, 12:43 AM
Actually I work in those areas alot and these parts of Wyoming haven't seen a actual winter in years...This year was just a Wyoming winter that we haven't seen in years.... Been very mild for many years... I'm not calling anyone an idiot, so don't put words in my mouth... It is very doable getting a 75" goat.... Also during the drought it wasn't getting green at all.... So you can keep your negative energy... I was in the hills today and have a 80+ goat spotted and seen several 75" speed goats....

justinthedoc
07-19-2011, 09:40 AM
Your funny, figured you were a gas empolyee... By the way not spreading negative energy bro... just stating facts.... good luck with that 80 incher. Dont really care what you say, I now what the winter kill was and I will leave it that. Fish go talk to Ace spratt at his ranch in lost cabin he owns most of 74 and you can google him and try an attempt over the phone if you wish to, he might still charge a trespass fee.

Fish
07-19-2011, 11:35 AM
Hey guys, I didn't mean to start a pissing match between the both of you, especially since I'm a NR hunter. I know the winter was rough on both deer and antelope but I wanted to hunt before I get to old to get out. I'll be 61 in a few days but I'm still in good shape, thank god. I talked to the biologist for both area 74 and 118 for deer and I knew what I was up against. Would have like to have drawn area 89 for deer, but 3 points wasn't going to do it and I wasn't going to wait 3 or more years to draw it. I plan to hunt the walk in areas in 74. I don't mind walking a few miles to get a good goat. I don't need an 80 but I would like a crack at one 78 or so. I've shot a few in the 78-79 range and six or so that are not so good. I've hunted areas 46 52,89,91 in the past and all held sone good antelope.

Fish
07-19-2011, 11:40 AM
Hey guys, I didn't mean to start a pissing match between the both of you, especially since I'm a NR hunter. I know the winter was rough on both deer and antelope but I wanted to hunt before I get to old to get out. I'll be 61 in a few days but I'm still in good shape, thank god. I talked to the biologist for both area 74 and 118 for deer and I knew what I was up against. Would have like to have drawn area 89 for deer, but 3 points wasn't going to do it and I wasn't going to wait 3 or more years to draw it. I plan to hunt the walk in areas in 74. I don't mind walking a few miles to get a good goat. I don't need an 80 but I would like a crack at one 78 or so. I've shot a few in the 78-79 range and six or so that are not so good. I've hunted areas 46 52,89,91 in the past and all held some good antelope. I bought a couple of doe antelope tags also. Where is a good place to get them processed at a fair price? I'll probably need to because of the warm weather in late Sept. Any suggestions on where to stat hunting in area 74? Is there any good fly fishing near by. Do you think the bigger bucks would be picked over if I start my antelope hunt on Oct 7th or so?
I hope I'm not asking too many questions. I will contact the GW and area biologist again before I go.
Thanks again for the info
Fish

justinthedoc
07-19-2011, 11:51 AM
No im fine just tired of lies, when and if I draw antelope tags I wait til atleast the last week of september to go. Less people all the residents smoke most theres the opener. Plus I think the big bucks wait til the later part of the rut to grab does, just a theory of mine that has workd. Not very much fly-fishing in those parts, I suppose you could run over to the wind below boysen and cast a bit, not to far from your area. I only now of processors in casper, if thats were your stayin then I would choose dans, or pats. Best in the town. Riverton have no idea. If you have hunted goats that often you will be fine dont worry about it plenty of goats. Most your antelope guys will be gone by the time your planning on going, check the gas hills road area, and your southern boundry. Now lots of guys who hunt that area.

Fish
07-19-2011, 03:41 PM
Thanks Justin for the info. The area biologist told me to skip the opener also, which I plan to do. I plan to camp on BLM land and spend 7 or 8 days hunting if I need to. I'm ordering all the BLM maps for the area and possibly a custom map to. I will have to drive into town for gas and a shower. Can gas be found in all the smaller towns in the area? I got a name and # for a processor in Riverton and hopefully we can work a deal if I get all three processed there.
Thanks again.

justinthedoc
07-19-2011, 05:42 PM
Sound like some good times, yeah hiland sometimes has fuel but I would not count on it, your best bet would be shoshoni for any quick fuel ups, Good luck this fall.

chadderbox
07-19-2011, 06:15 PM
I haven't seen one fact!!! Just like saying Ace owns most of area 74, when in fact he is north of the highway!!! Also I am not a gas employee, just more of your BS, bro!!! I was giving fish encouragement on his area, that I also have a tag in... Fish if you like I could get you numbers of the land owners in the area... Just a little FYI, justin, I do work for all the land owners in that area... As a matter of fact I will be out there tomorrow doing work for Spratt's... Funny how you did some name dropping...

kcaves
07-19-2011, 07:33 PM
chad, when u comin over to douglas

chadderbox
07-19-2011, 08:11 PM
Definitely in September for archery elk!!! Can't hardly wait... Tie a big one to a tree for me!!! Gonna scout some more around here for goats and deer this weekend... The girls are coming to Douglas this weekend...

kcaves
07-19-2011, 09:50 PM
U draw a bull tag? You and I are the only ones out of everyone over here that drew

myselfandi
07-20-2011, 10:37 AM
Just curious, your saying the spratts dont own any land south of the highway, I know they do... way to turn this thread into a bash just help the guy and be done with it. Sounds like your hunting spratts place if you work for him.

chadderbox
07-20-2011, 05:32 PM
I was helping Fiah out by telling him that the winter wasn't as bad as justin was making it sound... The antelope are looking great as I see them and others in this area... Seen lots of fawns on on Deer Creek, which is a great sign... I had a conversation with Bill about the goats and he agreed that they are doing great, he did say that the deer herds aren't what they use to be years ago... As far as calling Ace to get on that property it won't do you any good, because as I mentioned earlier Ace doesn't own on that side of the highway... You are correct to say Spratts do, just not Ace... That is TJ Spratts on that side... So I apologize for coming off like that, but I felt because I had a different opinion on the winter in this area that I was wrong... Which I live and work in this area, so I should at least be allowed my opinion... Which is he shouldn't have a problem getting a 75" or better goat in this area... I seen several in that range today... Farther towards Casper there may have been more snow, closer to Moneta not so much... Had a late storm that had us concerned for the younger goats though...

myselfandi
07-21-2011, 11:32 AM
Yeah I dont know about the shoshoni side, but from moneta to just east of waltman got it pretty good. I hunt and trap alot of that country and it was not very pleasant out there this year so maybe thats were he/she is coming from. I have put in for 75 since I was allowed to, and my dad has hunted that for years before that. This was the first year I did not put in for it cause of the snow pack. Maybe across the highway was different, dont know. Even the yotes I got looked like hell. I dont think its hard to get a 72+ goat anywhere. The only thing I wish is that everyone would get the start shooting older bucks and let the little one grow mentality. Its amazing to see what some folks smack, but to each his own. Good luck this fall, this has been an interesting thread.

bigsky2
07-27-2011, 08:57 AM
justinthedoc, I sent you a pm.

chadderbox
07-28-2011, 09:03 AM
I've gone scouting the last couple weekend in 74 and the goats look great and there are lots of little ones running around... With alot being twins, so the concern for me was the early spring storms hurting the young... Lots of 75" range goats out there... There is a lot of water holes all over that have been dry in the past... It's been dry so water holes might be a good option for archery and if no moisture later in the season... Aug 15 can't come soon enough... Good luck to those lucky enough to draw...

chadderbox
08-04-2011, 09:20 AM
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Here is a few goats from our area... Tough to get any good pictures...A lot of the goats wouldn't let me close enough for my little camera... The one by the tank is on TJ's ranch, the others are in that first area I told you about... Good luck to ya!!!

Fish
08-04-2011, 11:24 AM
Your getting me excited. Nice goats

sjsmallfield
08-04-2011, 06:17 PM
Nice pics!

shootbrownelk
08-05-2011, 12:06 PM
I was just in 74 yesterday....out to Castle Gardens and around the area between it and
Hwy 20/26. LOTS of Oil & Gas activity around there...the Goats were on a dead run as soon
as they spotted the vehicle. Possibly indicating oil patch worker harassment. Don't know why
they would be so spooky otherwise. Some of the bucks were pretty nice though...I had my
spotting scope along. I did spot some water holes that had good water in them.