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  1. I play it straight up, better to get a unit you...

    I play it straight up, better to get a unit you can hunt and have good quality even though the odds suck than to try and game the system so you don't draw. By doing that you are only hurting...
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    You'll have to narrow down a couple of areas you...

    You'll have to narrow down a couple of areas you think you might draw then we might be able to help. Does no good to give you an outfitter in an area you'll never draw w/ those points. I did my...
  3. Thread: region k or w

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    131 is huge, but deer density is extremely low in...

    131 is huge, but deer density is extremely low in the Red Desert. There are some big bucks out there, but in my opnion the density is so low and the country is so huge that its not worth the...
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    Love a nice tall buck!

    Love a nice tall buck!
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    Wyoming Proposal to cut Ram Tags

    Looks like the current proposal for ram tags in Wyoming has been cut by 18 permits (8 in area 5)...we'll see if it gets accepted. Public meeting tab on Fish and Game page.
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    I would say for the people that aren't greatly...

    I would say for the people that aren't greatly invested in it (top-point groups), it's a good time to get out. Too much money to front and virtually no odds at ever drawing a tag. With point...
  7. It'd be hard to pass any 300 class bull in...

    It'd be hard to pass any 300 class bull in 24...lots of 5's and small 6's taken by hunters. There are a few good ones there though, just like any Wyoming unit limited or general, but def no...
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    Yeah, if a guy took all his point/tag fees and...

    Yeah, if a guy took all his point/tag fees and saved them he'd at least be able to go on one nice hunt eventually. Montana is depressing...we NRs need a set quota and a seperate draw from the...
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    That is why Montana needs to go to a seperate NR...

    That is why Montana needs to go to a seperate NR draw with a guaranteed 10% of the tags. They want our money, but they don't want to give us the opportunity to draw.
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    Max points are 13 going into the draw.

    Max points are 13 going into the draw.
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    Yes only for NRs. I feel your pain for the long...

    Yes only for NRs. I feel your pain for the long odds...now if they'd set aside 10% for NRs in a seperate draw, that'd be better.
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    Plus the $10 for conservation license if you...

    Plus the $10 for conservation license if you don't have one.
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    Montana Sheep, Moose, Goat Draw Open

    Draw is open, you no longer have to submit the tag fee w/ your application, but they are now charging a $50 non-refundable fee per species as well as a $20 non-refundable bonus point fee per species...
  14. Thread: Unit 57

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    I'm going to go out on a limb and say draw odds...

    I'm going to go out on a limb and say draw odds this year for antelope will go down. They'll be more people putting in then in years past, especially for the more sought out areas. People took at...
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    Custom Remington 700 30 Hart with 200 grain...

    Custom Remington 700 30 Hart with 200 grain Accubonds at 3075 fps, 1/2 inch groups at 200 yards or my custom Remington Model 7, 7mm SAUM with 175 grain Partitions at 2846 fps, same 1/2 inches at 200...
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    Whitetail typical award peiod is 160, all-time...

    Whitetail typical award peiod is 160, all-time book is 170...good luck Zim glad you found a spot.
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    There's not a limited quota unit as good as G...

    There's not a limited quota unit as good as G right now...most of the limited quota areas are good for 130-150 bucks with virtually no chance for anything bigger than 170. There are exceptions, but...
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    I hear the opener is really good so lots of...

    I hear the opener is really good so lots of scouting before to have a big bull picked out opening morning. Most guys fill the first week, but I hear that bulls can come over from the Colorado side...
  19. On a good note...you actually get quite a bit of...

    On a good note...you actually get quite a bit of tagholders that drop out of the system, even in the higher point pools. See the link, above from Alabama its a good one, guy takes into account...
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    Yeah, 20-30 years of preference points plus the...

    Yeah, 20-30 years of preference points plus the 1400-2000 (don't forget it will go up) for a tag when you finally draw...add in interest over that time period...that's a hunt up north across the...
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    Let's not forget Montana, they increased the...

    Let's not forget Montana, they increased the value of my NR points by squaring them.
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    I agree UH, if it went 90/10 for sheep/moose from...

    I agree UH, if it went 90/10 for sheep/moose from where it was before I believe a case for fraud could be made against the state and probably statistically proven unless they changed the whole system...
  23. Thread: Wyoming Moose

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    I'd wait the 9 years for the tag you want unless...

    I'd wait the 9 years for the tag you want unless the opportunity presented itself in an area you knew you could tag a big bull. You already know the Bighorns and that's a huge advantage. This is...
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    Welcome!!!!

    Welcome!!!!
  25. Thread: Unit 24 WY Elk

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    24 is managed more for quantity than quality as...

    24 is managed more for quantity than quality as far as the limited units go. He should have a great hunt, see lots of 5 and 6 pts, but he shouldn't pass a 300 bull. I'd say the average 6 pt bull...
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