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    Quote Originally Posted by Bitterroot Bulls View Post
    That is awesome, Kevin.

    So far, for a solo shelter, I really like the TT contrail best.

    As I have mentioned here and elsewhere, I think the GoLite SL5 will be my multi-person shelter this year. I will use it floorless with a bivy. That way all of my gear will be out of the elements, I can take my boots off inside, have enough room to stand up, and still be protected from the wet ground with the bivy.

    We will see how it goes.
    I think your solutions will work well Bitterroot Bulls. I like the idea of using something like the floor-less, GoLite SL5 along with the bivy. It perhaps adds some better functionality to the whole system. It also might help take some on the condensation issues away when using the bivy in wet weather. I keep my bivy open just a bit to help with the air flow and it seems to help well but adding the extra cocoon of sorts or double wall around you would help perhaps with the outside elements along with helping to deter some of those pesky critters as well. It makes for a lightweight shelter with options.

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    I was thinking i would mostly keep the bivy open, unless bugs were being a problem, or I needed the extra warmth.

    Then there is the option of throwing the bivy in the pack for the day as an emergency shelter, or for spiking out. I am excited to give the system a try.

    I might have to sew in a stovepipe boot in the SL5 as well, and get an EdT stove.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bitterroot Bulls View Post
    I was thinking i would mostly keep the bivy open, unless bugs were being a problem, or I needed the extra warmth.

    Then there is the option of throwing the bivy in the pack for the day as an emergency shelter, or for spiking out. I am excited to give the system a try.

    I might have to sew in a stovepipe boot in the SL5 as well, and get an EdT stove.
    Some excellent ideas Bitterroot Bulls. Lightweight shelters with options. Sounds like a good concept to me at least.

    "There is nothing more powerful than an idea whose time has come."
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    I personally like the room and comfort that goes with my two-man Eureka tent. I know it is far from being the lightest shelter, but being comfortable in camp is worth the added weight in the pack for anything over 2-3 nights. Also, I'm 6'3" so I need a little more room. That is also a contributing factor...your personal height/weight and what tent/shelter you can fit in. I also like being able to put most or all of my gear in the tent to keep dry, sort through/prep for the next day, and now to keep from the coyotes. When my funds increase I will look for something lighter, but similar in size. It all comes down to what you want/dread the most...weight in your pack or comfortable sleep.

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    I have a copper spur ul4. Later down the road when money isn't an issue I will get something for more solo use but since my daughter and/or wife go scouting with me I had to get something comfortable enough for the 3 of us as well as solo.

    There is plenty of vestibule room for all our gear and them some. Just wish I could shed that extra 3 lbs when I'm going solo.

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    Has anyone used either of the appy trails tents? They look interesting considering how lite they are for their size.

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    I got a Kifaru paratarp earlier this winter and like it, but I haven't tested it out much yet. I did set it up with a tarp under it to catch moisture before we got a 3 day long rain. It wasn't a downpour but it was 3" over the 3 days. The only moisture on the tarp was a few droplets under the seam along the middle of the tarp where it needed seam sealed. I kept the tarp in about 4" or so from the edges where the soild got damp. I like that it weighs under 1lb with stakes and sets up very quickly. I carry stakes for the sides, but just cut poles or use trekking poles to raise it. Even my Stoney point bipod works in a pinch. I have the annex and pipe for the parastove I picked up from a forum on the way, should be here tomorrow. I bought a Seekoutside bathtub floor for it also that weighs 8oz with the stuff sack I have it in. I thought that might be nice to keep it dry under my bedroll and still be able to have muddy boots inside. I'll get it tested further fishing this spring and summer. The paratarp itself is light enough I plan to keep it in my daypack with my Adventure medical bivy sack and other survival gear when day hunting. If I have an emergency sitution or just get far enough back I decide to stay the night they will be way better than nothing.

    The guy I hunt with and I are looking to add a sawtooth and a pipe for the stove to our gear for when both of us go.

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    I prefer a tarp for light weight and room for gear out of the weather. Tarps offer no insect protection unless you pitch some mosquito netting with it, which adds to weight although minimally. they give stand up room for dressing and a sheltered place to eat or lounge. A bivy is lighter, usually but not always, but gear is out in the weather, and there's no shelter for dressing, lounging, eating, etc. Tents offer greater protection from the elements, but weigh a lot.
    The Appy Trails tents are very light, and offer great protection. Look at them at www.appytrails.com. I'm saving up for one. Until then, I'll keep using my tarp.
    If you're shopping for a tarp, check out Bushcraft USA's store, online at www.bushcraftusa.com. BTW I have no connection with either Appy Trails or Bushcraft USA, other than posting from time to time on BCUSA's forum.
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    I'd be curious to know more about appy trails materials. When doing a DIY shaped tarp I went with 1.1 oz silicone coated nylon since anything polyurethane coated was extremely heavy and getting sub 1# was not an option. For $100 I might have to see for myself and also test the grommets.

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    I posted this in another thread as well but have any of you used one of these?

    http://www.cabelas.com/product/Cabel...h-All+Products

 

 

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