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    I use 180 grain VLD's.

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    I recovered a 168 Berger from a bear killed yesterday by my grandson. I won't have a scales until I get back home, but it looks like its low on weight retention. Bullet got its share of meat, I don't really like that. It did just drop the bear and I did like that.

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    I use either Accubonds or Ballistic tips, not quite as streamlined as some others but designed as hunting bullets and I have never had any trouble getting them to shoot well with minimal load development.

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    I don't use a "special" long range bullet. Long range for me is 400 yards or so. I have never shot anything over about 500. I hve shot varmints & prairie dogs out to 500, but big game 4 to 450 is it. (I've punched a lot of holes in paper up to 1000, but nothing live) My point is that my bullet of choice is a Nosler Partition for elk & larger and Sierra Game Kings on smaller.
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    the 300 gr. SMK. The picture was taken on the exit hole side. Don't ask me how, but there were chunks of lungs all over the ground. The shot was straight through both shoulders; not anywhere near the lungs. I expect similar results with the Berger.

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    What a waste of meat. If you can't hit them good you shouldn't be shooting long range. Why do you need a 300 grain bullet for a 100 lb animal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grantbvfd View Post
    What a waste of meat. If you can't hit them good you shouldn't be shooting long range. Why do you need a 300 grain bullet for a 100 lb animal?
    Looks like a pretty good hit to me, while the caliber would not be my first choice for a pronghorn nor would a Match King bullet, I can see nothing wrong with the shot placement. I think the gun and caliber are personal preference, for what it's worth I have seen smaller calibers exhibit similar damage with similar shot placement.

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    The weight of the recovered 168 Berger from the bear kill was 56.5 gr or 33% of the original weight. Not a pass thru, but the bear was dead in his tracks. This was a 150 yd shot with muzzle velocity of 3017fps. Might be a little more meat waste than a windchester E-Tip, as an example. Weight retention was no where near any of the bullets in EHJ june/july.
    I dont see any reason not to use them on my unit 67 3rd season rifle hunt and the Co sept bear hunt.

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    I am shooting 180 grain Barnes TTSX and getting good results out of it. The one my rifle liked the best of the half dozen $50 a box grade ammos I tried.

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    Happy New Year from Washington!! I have some VLD hunting/target style bullet info for everyone, and by no means am I claiming to be a expert on these bullets, just my experiences:
    I shot my 344" bull at 917yds in 07', one shot with the Berger 338 300 grain OTM outa a 338 lap and he went about 20 yards then started tumbling. The bullet exited through the left shoulder on a broadside shot, perfect performance. I've shot 5 mulleys, 1 at 111yds, one at 445yds and the last at 501, the other 1 was a montana mulley shot uphill 45 degrees away but he was 88 yds away. The last was a small whitetail at 307yds. Four of the last five were shot with my 7mm Dakota and a Matrix 190's (they run the J4 jacket, same as Berger). All the bullets performed perfectly. The 5th was my biggest mulley to date and on public land, he was hit with a 6.5x280 ack running the 142 Matrix at 3102fps and he was hit at 445 in the neck, quartering at a R angle towards me, going down hill and looking over his left
    Shoulder. The round hit midline 8" from his right shoulder and traveled into the top of his lungs then detonated. Hopefully this is clear as mud...
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    I use a number of LR bullets for F-Class (TR & Open), and BR and LR tactical matches:
    180 grain 7mm JLK's, 180 grain Long Tail 30 cal JLK's, 7mm 180 Berger Hybrids, 30 cal 200 grain and 230 grain Hybrids, 6mm 105 grain Hybrids, 6.5 140 grain A-Max's, 6mm 105 grain A-Max's, 130 grain 6.5 Berger VLD's, 140 grain 6.5 Berger VLD's and Hybrids.

 

 

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