It looks like there are several units that will do what i want. Soon i will have a new gps in my hand. I will let you know what i picked.. I have a degree in geology and can read topos pretty well. Its beeen frustrating over past years when im hunting my ground (and yours) blm or national forest and bump into someone who cant belive i hiked in. All the easy access is blocked by private. Oh well. good hunting and success to you all. Thanks for the replies and tips