im assuming it was about 60. when id hunt from a tree stand i knew that to be 40 and whent from there but not certain, and u r right i havent shot it enough and am thinking thats most my prob. getting use to recoil and all. bobt, i shoot federal prem. would love to start reloading and save big bucks. and it sounds like it was a bad shot all in all, i was hopeing for an excuse.