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    low light test last night

    Just figured I'd post our findings for anyone interested.

    Last night my hunting partner brought over his new Vortex Razor HD 20-60x85 spotter and his 10x42 Leupold Gold Ring Binos. We set it up on a truck window mount, and had my Minox BL 13x56 BR binoculars, Vortex Viper 8x42's (non HD), and Minox BV 8x42 binos, as well as my ED50 on my tripod. We compared them for the last hour of daylight, and about 30 minutes of dark looking across a narrow cornfield about 3/4 of a mile long that we just chopped for silage.

    The Razor spotter was excellent. At 20x it did very well, and even up to 40x it seemed to gather alot of light. It was usable longer than his Leupold Gold Ring binos.

    The little ED50 hung in way better than expected. It was probably due to the 13x low end instead of 20x low end. Still even when turning it up to 20x it did a good job. It definitely wasn't equal to the Razor, but wasn't as far behind as I figured it would be. I think it's title as king of 50mm scopes is well earned.

    The Gold Ring binos were disappointing, the worst of anything tested. He is getting rid of them they were noticably heavier than the 8x binos I had and didn't gather as much light. They also cost more than I paid for both of mine combined.

    The 13x Minox binos beat everything for seeing detail in low light. They showed more detail later than anything tested. The larger objective and better glass must have more than made up for the higher magnification. It was like turning the clock back 15 minutes when we looked through them compared to everything else we tested.

    The 8x binos we rated equal. Both showed more detail than the 10x Leupold's, but not what the 13x minox showed. For the money we were impressed with both. He may trade his gold rings into SWFA on 8x42 Razors, and if he does I'll be real curious to compare again.

    We should have had a clock out with us and wrote down times that they became un-usable, but we didn't think that far ahead. It was an unplanned event, we just did it while grilling. Just figured I'd post it, I'm always looking to upgrade optics and read reviews. It seems that there is less low light reviews available than on clarity, color, and other features.

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    Cool project and thanks for the review!

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    Great review thanks for sharing your findings!

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    Thanks for sharing your findings with us. Nice test.
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    Yes, but you didn't answer the most important question: How'd the grilling turn out?!

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    Excellent. Can't beat sharing steaks from a home raised beef and a few cold beers with friends.

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    How can you excpect 10 power to compare to 8 power in low light with the same objective dia? I can't really see this as being a very valid test. You would have to compare the same power magnification ratings to make it a valid test. I have hard time believing that if you used the same magnification with same objective size you would have had the same results. I would tell your hunting partner to hold on to the gold rings and try a pair of vortex setup the same as his gold rings before getting rid of them. Both being a 10x42. As far as the spotting scope goes I would expect it would do good with 85mm objective. But what else do you have to compare it to.

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    We just tested what we currently have against each other. The reason I would have expected the newer Gold Ring's to keep up with the other binoculars is that they are considerably more expensive. I paid $179 for the Minox 8x off the SWFA sample list and $300 for the Vortex from the same place. He paid over $700 for the Gold Ring's new. I am a big Leupold fan, I have their scopes on nearly all my rifles, but I wasn't impressed with his binoculars. He is also looking at 8x42's on the Razor binoculars so he is going away from the 10x anyway. We are looking to upgrade glass. Since my cheaper Minox 8x binoculars were equal to my Vortex Vipers I traded them off on Minox HG 8x43 binos, their upper end glass. I will see how they compare when they arrive hopefully they will beat anything we have tried so far. I would expect them to at their price.

    As for the spotter, we didn't have anything to compare it to except my little ED50 and the binoculars. I would love to compare it to other high end spotters, we just don't have any. Our test was never meant to be a comprehensive test just more of a review of what we have and how it worked to help anyone else looking at purchasing the same glass. I read tons of reviews before purchasing glass, figured others do to.
    Last edited by mcseal2; 08-01-2012 at 11:11 PM.

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    good info mcseal...

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    Great onfo mcseal2,
    I've compared my Swaro SL 10x42. Minox 10X42 and 3 different lower end Leupold 10x42 bino's, non were golden rings.
    The Minox is just as bright and clear as the Swaro's and in low light no discernable difference. I do think my Swaro's take a beating better though but for the lighter weight and way cheaper cost, you can't beat the Minox bino's.
    Sorry I missed the BBQ.

 

 

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