4 of us are headed out for our first elk hunt ... wilderness at that! i am looking at units 14, 15 and 231 to hunt the wilderness areas... hoping to avoid 4 wheelers and crowds and get into elk. surfing the forums i find the are alot of folks everywhere. are our goals realistic? we will be hunting the first 3 weeks of the season.

what about the flat tops unit 24 (23/24/33)? if i read it correctly no points are required but it is still a draw. odds seem pretty good to draw even for out of staters.