I agree totally. There is nothing better than running myself in the ground with with my brother and my niece in the pursuit. Success or not, it is always a great time. I was unsuccessful this year, but got to pack my brothers elk out on my birthday for 20 hrs straight. I loved it. I work in an office 30ft away from my brother. Hunting and fishing trips offer us a real chance to have fun and "not" talk about work. Everybody needs to find that time!!