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    I think that we all can agree on the fact that we all have different preferences for what we are going to pack in, and there's no need for everyone to be the same on particular item. I like to have plenty to eat when I hunt, so I bring plenty of food. It's hard to beat being perched up on top of a mountain, glassing for muleys, working your way through a bag of delicious deer jerky!

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    Speaking of food...

    Just curious on what everybody who plans for a regular caloric intake packs. I ask because my pack is at 60lbs for 4 days right now, that includes 1 gallon of water and about 5lbs of food.

    However, that 5lbs only gets me to 2100 calories a day, so I want to add about another 500 calories per day, but I'm wondering if the weight for the amount of food I'm going to be carrying sounds about right or whether there might be lighter options.

    The other thing is that when I get active (maybe other people notice this too), I can't stand being stuffed full of food, so I have to be careful about how "bulky" the food is, or I just won't be able to get it down, no matter how hungry I am.

    Besides a reserve, I don't want to end up like Arrowslinger talked about, carrying a bunch of stuff I won't end up eating.

    Here's what I have planned for each day:

    Instant ramyun (Korean spicy kind) and 2 packs of tuna in olive oil - this is my 1 hot meal per day, calorie, weight, price, etc, wise, it's equivalent to or better than Mountain House

    2 Bridgford sandwiches and/or MRE components - my other main meals, shelf stable, don't require heating to eat

    3 Cliff Mojo Bars, I may add some Honey Stinger waffles just for variety, they're similar in weight and number of calories

    Instant coffee, gatorade, etc, don't add a significant amount of calories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bitterroot Bulls View Post
    I am glad you posted some more info, Kevin. There is a big difference between making a gallon last a couple days and going without a couple days.

    It seems like you have what your body needs figured out. I try to take in at least 2500 calories a day in the woods, and still drop weight out there.

    I think planning for 2500 a day is a good start for a new backcountry hunter.
    Agreed. 2500 is a good start for anyone to start figuring out what they need. Sorry for the confusion between 3 days without water and 3 days without new water or a water source. That was a bad description on my part. Water, electrolyte tablets and GU keep me going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMSZ View Post
    Speaking of food...

    Just curious on what everybody who plans for a regular caloric intake packs. I ask because my pack is at 60lbs for 4 days right now, that includes 1 gallon of water and about 5lbs of food.

    However, that 5lbs only gets me to 2100 calories a day, so I want to add about another 500 calories per day, but I'm wondering if the weight for the amount of food I'm going to be carrying sounds about right or whether there might be lighter options.

    The other thing is that when I get active (maybe other people notice this too), I can't stand being stuffed full of food, so I have to be careful about how "bulky" the food is, or I just won't be able to get it down, no matter how hungry I am.

    Besides a reserve, I don't want to end up like Arrowslinger talked about, carrying a bunch of stuff I won't end up eating.

    Here's what I have planned for each day:

    Instant ramyun (Korean spicy kind) and 2 packs of tuna in olive oil - this is my 1 hot meal per day, calorie, weight, price, etc, wise, it's equivalent to or better than Mountain House

    2 Bridgford sandwiches and/or MRE components - my other main meals, shelf stable, don't require heating to eat

    3 Cliff Mojo Bars, I may add some Honey Stinger waffles just for variety, they're similar in weight and number of calories

    Instant coffee, gatorade, etc, don't add a significant amount of calories.
    I would personally suggest adding either olive oil or some type of nuts for the extra calories. An ounce of each will give you over 400 calories. Put tre oil in a flask or plastic travel bottle and drink it. Neither one of these will add the bulky full feeling to your stomach and Both are high in fat for long lasting fuel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BKC View Post
    This seems a little harsh. I am in shape when the season comes around but I would never starve and go without water for 2 or 3 days. Day 1 headach, Day2 migrane, Day 3 flight for life is how my body handles no water at 11,000'
    ^^^^^^^^This. Not keeping hydrated is a very dangerous game to play. You'd be surprised how much motivation you will lose to chase those bucks up and down if you are not properly fed and hydrated to. The extra weight is well worth the extra energy gained.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arrowslinger21 View Post
    I would personally suggest adding either olive oil or some type of nuts for the extra calories. An ounce of each will give you over 400 calories. Put tre oil in a flask or plastic travel bottle and drink it. Neither one of these will add the bulky full feeling to your stomach and Both are high in fat for long lasting fuel.
    Edit - I read your post wrong, now I see that you meant that an ounce of oil plus an ounce of nuts will put you over 400 calories...I thought you meant the nuts alone were over 400.

    The Mojo bars are 190 calories each, about what an ounce of nuts are.

    I just found what could be the coolest thing - powdered peanut butter (they have peanut butter with chocolate, too).

    Directions are 2 ounces of water with one packet of powdered peanut butter, but I'm sure you could substitute an ounce of olive oil for an ounce of water.

    I'll have to see if it can fit in a Honey Stinger waffle packet - take the waffle out, mix the peanut butter (with one ounce of olive oil) in the packet and then put it on the waffle and you have a 500 calorie snack...

    I saw you mentioned the olive oil earlier, I'm going to have to think on that one some more. I have taken it plain for heartburn (works good), but that's just a tablespoon or so at a time. Thinking about it just now, a flask full of oil probably isn't a bad idea, I can eat it plain or if I catch some fish, I can use it on that, too.

    Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMSZ View Post
    Edit - I read your post wrong, now I see that you meant that an ounce of oil plus an ounce of nuts will put you over 400 calories...I thought you meant the nuts alone were over 400.

    The Mojo bars are 190 calories each, about what an ounce of nuts are.

    I just found what could be the coolest thing - powdered peanut butter (they have peanut butter with chocolate, too).

    Directions are 2 ounces of water with one packet of powdered peanut butter, but I'm sure you could substitute an ounce of olive oil for an ounce of water.

    I'll have to see if it can fit in a Honey Stinger waffle packet - take the waffle out, mix the peanut butter (with one ounce of olive oil) in the packet and then put it on the waffle and you have a 500 calorie snack...

    I saw you mentioned the olive oil earlier, I'm going to have to think on that one some more. I have taken it plain for heartburn (works good), but that's just a tablespoon or so at a time. Thinking about it just now, a flask full of oil probably isn't a bad idea, I can eat it plain or if I catch some fish, I can use it on that, too.

    Thanks.
    The nuts are about the same as the mojo bar, but adding some nuts instead of more bars gives you more variety and a greater variety of nutrients. Powdered peanut butter is something that isn't easy on the taste buds. It however could be a great way to get your olive oil in but I haven't tried that yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arrowslinger21 View Post
    The nuts are about the same as the mojo bar, but adding some nuts instead of more bars gives you more variety and a greater variety of nutrients. Powdered peanut butter is something that isn't easy on the taste buds. It however could be a great way to get your olive oil in but I haven't tried that yet.
    I dropped 1 Mojo bar and added 4 Honey Stinger waffles and 2 packs of Carnation instant breakfast (mix it with coffee and water for breakfast and lunch) and that got me to 2800+ calories a day without much extra weight.

    I totally forgot about the Carnation.

    Those waffles are pretty good, not too sweet like a lot of energy food. I take it you've had the powdered peanut butter before...
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    This seems like a great list. And no, I don't work for gannet ridge or sitka. I'll probably never buy this stuff because I already have slightly heavier and much cheaper versions of these things already, but this is a great list. It doesn't include food (which is a very personal choice anyway). It also doesn't include game bags or knives. But, a great starting point for a person of means.
    https://www.gannettridge.com/Articles.asp?ID=264

 

 

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