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    I never thought the points system was a good thing. I've been kicking and screaming the whole way.

    I've always said that if you live in a unit. You should have first pick on the tags. I'm still pissed that someone from out of state can come hunt where I live, and I can't.

    Rant will never be over.

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    Im not a huge fan of the PP system either. Ive put in for points in Co for elk ever since I was going on youth hunts. I would get one point and go on a cow hunt in 49, that was a great time and started my addiction to elk hunting. Then through late high school and college I built up points and burned them in '10 on an archery elk hunt in 76. Now Im back to 2 and plan on burning them this year if I dont draw wyoming. I will not chase any high demand units again, point creep is ridiculous and Id rather go to a 2-3 point unit several times than wait 25 years to burn my points. I also put in for elk and moose points in wyo. in the past, but I think Im giving up on the moose because the time and money it will take to catch up (I have 2 now). My plan for moose is to save up and just book a moose hunt to Canada when I can afford it and when the time is right vs. when I can draw in the states. The PP issue is a tough one, it has it's advantages but I think there is getting to be so much demand for western big game hunts there is not enough to go around every year like we all wish. It's a game of long term commitment, and you do have an edge over that "lucky guy" putting in for the first time if you have points. Not sure I like the full lottery style either, any ideas on a better solution???

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    OH, at least when you see us dirty non-residents you can have comfort knowing our tag cost 10x what you paid. And most of us are "lost in the woods" hoping to get lucky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by packer58 View Post
    CC,

    Is the PP edition something a NR can get ahold of.

    I'm sure you can get one if you call the DOW. The exact same information is on-line too. I find the PP edition worthless. Send me your address and I'll put mine in the mail to you.

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    It really should be simple, since NR are paying for everything they should pay 10x as much for a resident tag and they should be guaranteed 20% of all tags for any animal...anything less is criminal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enysse View Post
    It really should be simple, since NR are paying for everything they should pay 10x as much for a resident tag and they should be guaranteed 20% of all tags for any animal...anything less is criminal.
    In Colorado it can be as high as 40%!!!!
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    I've never cared for the point system. I can remember pulling tags in limited entry hunting units in my state far quicker when they did not have the point system. We have a whole lot bigger people population now here and that has to factor in but I'm just not a big fan of the point system. I may be living in the past a bit but it just was nice having more hunting options and pretty much being able to hunt where I wanted to back in the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Root View Post
    I may be living in the past a bit but it just was nice having more hunting options and pretty much being able to hunt where I wanted to back in the day.
    Yep me too!!
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    Points system vs no points example. In Oregon, Sheep and Goats are strictly lottery, no points. Deer, elk and antelope are all points system. I drew a sheep tag before I drew antelope tag im my 15 years of applying here. I'm not a fan, I like the way Idaho does it, I hope they don't change a thing, if they do I hope they actually charge for tag fees up front too. Less people applying = better odds. I am starting to thing I will just hire an outfitter rather than wait decades for a DIY hunt, in the long run the high demand tags are not cheap either. I am 43 this year and time is going by very rapidly, waiting 10-15 years for a tag is hard to swallow. Life's too short.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorado Cowboy View Post
    In Colorado it can be as high as 40%!!!!
    From a NR prospective CO is fair to us, I was pissed when they closed us out of the ranching for wildlife draw.

 

 

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