I would go with the Element pant. The Torrent is rain gear. The Element is a little heavier weight pant that works well when it gets a little chilly, and if it warms up a little the vented zippers in the thigh area is great at letting in a little cool air. The DWR treating on the Element pant works pretty well for shedding a light rain or snow. Also the knee pads that come out real quick work great to put under your butt when you are glassing to keep the tush nice and comfortable.