Thanks we are fortunate to have sole access to a large ranch and can let these great deer reach maturity, last fall we seen 9 bucks we know will go 180 so things are looking good with the mild winter and maybe we will get another chance at another one or 2 next fall, the country is very rough and hard to access any other way then horse or walking but lends itself great to glassing, I am convinced that if you let them grow up there are trophy muleys in about every area!