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    I have a Kelty RedCloud 110 and a Eberlestock J34. I like them both but prefer the Eberlestock for hunting trips. It is a pretty good pack in pack but compresses nicely for a daypack one all the camping gear is setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grantbvfd View Post
    Perfect analogy. It is all personal preference.

    I see the analogy, but disagree.

    A premium hunting pack is objectively better for hunting uses. It has a real advantage in capabilities; specifically load rating, and durability. The premium hunting pack has these advantages regardless of the user.

    The personal preference comes in on whether or not the user wants to, or will, make use of these advantages.

    However, the user still needs to fit the pack. Luckily, most premium hunting packs are much more versatile in fit, including a lot of custom options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bitterroot Bulls View Post
    I see the analogy, but disagree.

    A premium hunting pack is objectively better for hunting uses. It has a real advantage in capabilities; specifically load rating, and durability. The premium hunting pack has these advantages regardless of the user.

    The personal preference comes in on whether or not the user wants to, or will, make use of these advantages.

    However, the user still needs to fit the pack. Luckily, most premium hunting packs are much more versatile in fit, including a lot of custom options.
    Would you say thay the kuiu icon pack has these advantages as well? The frames are having issues breaking under heavy loads. So this knocks out your last two advantages.

    I do agree with you bb, but bottom line is people are going to use what they want to use. There are some pretty heavy duty backpacking packs. Are they built to haul 120 lbs? I haven't called and asked but the arc'teryx bora or ultra and the rei xt 85 can carry that load. It isn't as comfortable as a high end hunting pack but that is my opinion.

    I understand that it is most likely because one pack is being used for what its intended use is and one isn't. If thats what someone has and it's working for them, more power to them. Do I agree with you that there are better options out there? Absolutely

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grantbvfd View Post
    Would you say thay the kuiu icon pack has these advantages as well? The frames are having issues breaking under heavy loads. So this knocks out your last two advantages.

    I do agree with you bb, but bottom line is people are going to use what they want to use. There are some pretty heavy duty backpacking packs. Are they built to haul 120 lbs? I haven't called and asked but the arc'teryx bora or ultra and the rei xt 85 can carry that load. It isn't as comfortable as a high end hunting pack but that is my opinion.

    I understand that it is most likely because one pack is being used for what its intended use is and one isn't. If thats what someone has and it's working for them, more power to them. Do I agree with you that there are better options out there? Absolutely

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    I still have a 2011 Kuiu Icon 6000. It hasn't broke or had any durablitiy issues for me, and my hunting partner got a lot of use out of it this year. I think it does have advantages over a backpacking specific pack, but not the same advantages as the other premium hunting packs.

    My Icon has a lot of features with the hunter in mind, and those are its advantages over a non-hunting pack.

    The issue with my Icon is it was not designed with the extreme load capabilities or "throw off a cliff" durability in mind, like the other packs I mentioned. Keep in mind the Icon has gone through significant changes since my generation 1 pack, and the newer packs may have remedied these issues. If I get one to test, I will see.

    I agree completely that people will use what they want to use, but the idea that premium packs offer only extra shine, and no real advantage over backpacking packs is incorrect, IMO.

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    Lets see some photos of these packs at work!- day trip thanksgiving morning buck, Madison Valley, MT

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    OR
    a new question- how much weight do people generally carry on a overnight, and a 3 to 4 day day trip, or 4+. I try and keep it around 45lbs.
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    Nice pic, weigand!

    I shot my first buck many years ago in the Gravellys.

    Here I am hauling around a trophy in the Kifaru Bikini:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bitterroot Bulls View Post
    Nice pic, weigand!

    I shot my first buck many years ago in the Gravellys.

    Here I am hauling around a trophy in the Kifaru Bikini:


    Awesome BB I used to do that with my daughter before she got to big. It's a great workout and a good way to get the pack broke in.
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    I'm embarrased to tell you all what I use. But here it goes, I have a "Allen" pack frame witha "TC" pack bunjee corded to it. It is an awefull set up! When on my last hunt I carried it it weighed 40 lbs on average just carrying what I needed for the day. I have since bought a Eberlystock X2 and cannot wait to try it out!

    My set up packing out camp and just the head 75lbs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timberstalker View Post
    I'm embarrased to tell you all what I use. But here it goes, I have a "Allen" pack frame witha "TC" pack bunjee corded to it. It is an awefull set up! When on my last hunt I carried it it weighed 40 lbs on average just carrying what I needed for the day. I have since bought a Eberlystock X2 and cannot wait to try it out!

    My set up packing out camp and just the head 75lbs

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    Using that pack will help keep you in better shape. I would sell that light pack you just got, and keep using the old stuff.

    If we go on a hunt together, I will also help with your conditioning by loading some of my stuff in your pack.

    BTW..............That ribbon still scares me. The trigger happies will see those antlers long before they ever see that ribbon or your head.

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    With pack on that was day 4 of a 10 day hunt. More bulky than heavy.. Around 80 lbs on the ground.. more heavy than bulky.. about 120 lbs

 

 

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