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    Old Dad Mtn / Kelso Peak sheep hunt

    My buddy who is 77 years old was drawn for this once in a life time sheep tag and asked me to assist him on this hunt. He can not afford to hire a guide, so I'm excited about helping him, but also a little stressed because I never hunted sheep myself. Just wondering if anyone here can provide any information on where to look and camp. I already spoke with the Biologist (Regina), just wanting info from fellow hunters. Also anyone know of any good books I can purchase that can help me distinguish the difference from just an average ram and a great ram would be nice. The season starts in Dec and runs till Feb.
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    So it's officially going to be DIY hunt? Hopefully you can dig up some more info here. I might know another place you can check for info as well.
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    Yea, my buddy can not afford $4500-$6500 the guides are asking.... He's retired and living on a fixed income.

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    bigshot,

    I don't know if California will give you the names, but some states will let you know who the prior tag holders were for OIL tags. When researching for friends that have drawn those types of tags, most former tag holders have been really helpful to new tag holders.

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    Oh, I did not think of that, I'll look into it thanks.

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    bigshot,
    I drew San Gorgonio sheep in 2002, the year the went to a point system. 3 times as many applicants.
    I saw sheep in there for years before they had a hunt there. They had no fear of people then. Without getting into detail, mass is a good indicator of age. Also a full curl with tip of horn coming up between jaw and eye. Some will broom the ends off horns off so not to block their vision. They will still score good if have good mass. Measurments are scored by the Circumference of horn divided into four sections so the length isn't a critical factor for score. I'm guessing the average base circumference is between 14 to 15 inches.168 total in. to make Ca. book. Annual rings can usually been seen on horns for aging. Mature rams between 6 to 9 yrs. are normal . If other rams are around you can judge larger rams more easily. They will act more dominate also. I hope this may give an idea but I'm no expert !
    If he likes one he sees I'd say shoot !
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    Quote Originally Posted by HuntWYODon View Post
    bigshot,
    I drew San Gorgonio sheep in 2002, the year the went to a point system. 3 times as many applicants.
    I saw sheep in there for years before they had a hunt there. They had no fear of people then. Without getting into detail, mass is a good indicator of age. Also a full curl with tip of horn coming up between jaw and eye. Some will broom the ends off horns off so not to block their vision. They will still score good if have good mass. Measurments are scored by the Circumference of horn divided into four sections so the length isn't a critical factor for score. I'm guessing the average base circumference is between 14 to 15 inches.168 total in. to make Ca. book. Annual rings can usually been seen on horns for aging. Mature rams between 6 to 9 yrs. are normal . If other rams are around you can judge larger rams more easily. They will act more dominate also. I hope this may give an idea but I'm no expert !
    If he likes one he sees I'd say shoot !
    Now I know where to find a guide that will bring all of the food and even carry out my sheep!
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    Hey, I just noticed that are now referring to everyone on this thread as "Senior Members"! Damned Whippersnappers!
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    [QUOTE=Sawfish;58860]Now I know where to find a guide that will bring all of the food and even carry out my sheep! [/QUOTE

    I only "help" pack out if you're too old to do it. You draw, give me a call. Have access to mules also. I don't like being the mule unless have to !

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