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    Generally, when someone saves points they're after a trophy animal unit. Meat hunters want to hunt every year.

    This isn't black and white, but if you're saving points. Only you know why.

    There's nothing wrong with being a trophy hunter. If that's your thing. You don't need to make excuses for it. Come out of the closet, and admit it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Hunter View Post
    It seems more than me took your post wrong. So, what did you mean by just hunting trophy animals, and herd management?
    btw..I never thought we were arguing, but having a discussion. Some never seem to catch onto that.
    Not sure people read all the posts all the way through/I wasn't very clear.. You mentioned harvesting all mature animals would not be a healthy management process. My statement of "Harvest mature animals" is far from your statement of "kill all the mature animals". It's not that easy. You don't get to harvest all the mature animals. They are very difficult to harvest, thus my statement "harvest opportunity is rare" And if harvest is a rare opportunity then you will not deplete the resource, that means, you will not kill all of the mature animals. True trophy hunters will harvest very few animals (I am not that), I know a guy that has taken 6 deer over 190, 2 of which are over 200. Took him 25 yrs, and ate his tag the other years.

    Where I should have separated my thought process was in the next sentence.. If everyone was a trophy hunter then not enough animals would be harvested thus they would exceed the holding capacity, which is a bad thing. I should have also added that I am fully aware of game management and I understand the process very well. Just to add the clarity.

    If you feel that "some never seem to catch onto that" you may want to evaluate your choice of words. Because oddly enough I have never had this experience on this forum. Obviously you have if you feel that way. One small tip would be something like not starting a reply with "you need to study up on game management". To be frank, it's rude. But it is true that we can have these conversations like adults and not argue. I do agree with that.

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    LOL OH What defines a trophy unit? Im not interested in units that take 10+ points to draw. I just want a quality hunt. If I apply in 3 states in units that take 3-5 points to draw I have a good chance of drawing 1 tag every year or atleast every other year. Last year I found a private ranch to hunt in a unit in WY that I can draw an antelope tag 2nd choice every year. I could hunt deer there too but I didnt draw it 2nd choice although you could easily up untill this year. I hunt somewhere every year no matter what. I think Im kinda in the middle. Im holding out for a B&C animal or nothing but I dont want to go shoot the first legal one I see either. I just want one Im happy with but I do my best to put something in the freezer every year too!

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    Montana...........Ok, so we understand each other. What did you mean when you said this?

    "To me... trophy hunting IS the ethical thing to do. Harvest mature animals."


    I don't think anybody said it wasn't ethical, but the way you worded it. Does it mean anything else is unethical? Just checking.

    When the DOW here wants to get a herd back in control of being too large. It's the doe/cow tags that are increased. Trophy hunters never help out with this problem. They'll continue to hunt trophy's. In a way, the trophy hunters should thank the meat hunters for keeping herds in control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Musket Man View Post
    LOL OH What defines a trophy unit? Im not interested in units that take 10+ points to draw. I just want a quality hunt. If I apply in 3 states in units that take 3-5 points to draw I have a good chance of drawing 1 tag every year or atleast every other year. Last year I found a private ranch to hunt in a unit in WY that I can draw an antelope tag 2nd choice every year. I could hunt deer there too but I didnt draw it 2nd choice although you could easily up untill this year. I hunt somewhere every year no matter what. I think Im kinda in the middle. Im holding out for a B&C animal or nothing but I dont want to go shoot the first legal one I see either. I just want one Im happy with but I do my best to put something in the freezer every year too!
    Well, units that require more points aren't that way because they have a lot of does/cows.

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    One reason for putting in for points besides trophy hunting is to get a higher quality hunt. Being from MN, I don't get to elk hunt every year, so if I put in for points and hunted every 3-4 years in a better unit, it might increase my odds for success. As a non-res bowhunter, I'm all for increasing my odds.
    Live to hunt, hunt to live.

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    Maybe I should have said....saves a lot of points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Hunter View Post
    Well, units that require more points aren't that way because they have a lot of does/cows.
    LOL! Some units take points to draw doe/cow tags. Some units that take points to draw a buck/bull tag but have left over doe/cow tags. If I use 3 points to draw I buck tag and buy a leftover doe tag am I a trophy hunter or a meat hunter? If I draw a tag that takes 3 points, go kill a trophy antelope after passing on a bunch of bucks, then buy a leftover doe tag for another unit and go kill a doe for the freezer what am I then?

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    I wasn't talking about 2-3 points. I need that to hunt for bulls in my unit. If you save points to hunt unit 201. I'm going to lay a big bet that you're not doing it to hunt for cows.

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    Im only applying for deer in CO but OTC elk is another of my back pocket hunts on years when I have the money and dont draw much else 1 of these years I would like to do a muzzle loader elk hunt in CO that I can draw without any points but I havent had the extra money for it yet.

 

 

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