I must say that I have had very little success when it comes to closing the deal on a nice mule deer or even elk in recent years. Not for a lack of trying. I did pass up small deer every day on the muzzle loader hunt last year. Couldn't bring myself to shoot the only 2 points left in SE utah. So to you guys that have posted with your pointers, thanks. Hopefully I can turn things around in 2011!!! If not I will still have a damn good time trying!!!!!!!