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    Im not sure which is less predictable, the CO true PP system or the NV BP system. If a couple guys in CO changed to a different unit, sat out of the draw, or decided to get in the draw it could make a big difference. Over the last 10 years min points has been 3-5 and I have 3. NV anything could happen and I have had no luck at all there so maybe I am due and its about 10-1 with 4 points so it could happen. In 2012 I drew 2 tags with single digit odds so that can happen too. My priority is CO but when I draw NV it will be atleast 10 years before I draw it again so I want to have time for it.

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    I also multiply last years draw odds from a few hunts like UH does. Fortunately I can borrow vacation from next year if I draw 2 good tags. Just have to watch the season dates. Can't hunt 2 states at the same time.

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    Umpqua are you sure about eating the money in Utah?? We turned tags back last fall due to some medical problems and I returned it about 2 months before the hunt and my friend returned his about two weeks before. I got a full refund minus $25 bucks, he didn't get any sort of refund. In any case you will get all your points back and a point for that year also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodtick View Post
    Umpqua are you sure about eating the money in Utah?? We turned tags back last fall due to some medical problems and I returned it about 2 months before the hunt and my friend returned his about two weeks before. I got a full refund minus $25 bucks, he didn't get any sort of refund. In any case you will get all your points back and a point for that year also.

    http://wildlife.utah.gov/licenses/refund_surrender/
    Whoa Woodtick…..good stuff. It looks like you can get the refund and your points reinstated up to 30 days before the season. Nice catch, and some very useful stuff to know. Thanks!
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    I thought I read in this year's HF that Utah now keeps your tag fee if you turn it back in, but does award you a point. Last year I know I read you got both tag fee & point. I know because I adjusted my applications to allow for that.

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    That link I provided comes directly out of the 2014 application guidebook, your still better to call and confirm in any case. Page 21
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodtick View Post
    That link I provided comes directly out of the 2014 application guidebook, your still better to call and confirm in any case. Page 21
    I am going to check on that for sure. It could open up a lot of options.
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