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    Quote Originally Posted by OregonJim View Post
    Just a thought........How about 5 veteran points?
    Great Idea if its for NR vets too

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    I hope they give a certain percentage of tags to those who have the most points and the rest in a random draw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OregonJim View Post
    I was wondering everyone's thoughts on doing away with preference points all together.

    If it were to happen, would folks support giving a person with 22 points, 22 chances vs say my 4 chances on a specific draw.
    I just can't think of any other way to preserve some integrity of the process and reward folks for all the points earned.
    Might be a bit hard to manage but over time the point holders should be rewarded and the playing field should start to level.
    Just a thought........
    Perhaps one of the math gurus could crunch some scenarios?

    If a tag lottery were instituted and folks with max points got those points converted to "additional chances" until drawn, then points scrubbed upon drawing, with no new points issued, would it be fair and equitable?
    Would it at least be better than a system with point creep.

    A slight chance would still be possible at a premium tag for a min point holder (not unlike random draws). The premium tags would still be weighted toward the folks who have the most points. The folks who are only interested in one specific tag wouldn't get the piece of mind of knowing, that a given number of max pointers would draw and be scrubbed, but those same guys would have the knowledge that they might draw that coveted tag a second time, rather than go to the back of the PPT line never to draw.

    Shoot holes in it if this is crazy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by OregonJim View Post
    Perhaps one of the math gurus could crunch some scenarios?

    If a tag lottery were instituted and folks with max points got those points converted to "additional chances" until drawn, then points scrubbed upon drawing, with no new points issued, would it be fair and equitable?
    Would it at least be better than a system with point creep.

    A slight chance would still be possible at a premium tag for a min point holder (not unlike random draws). The premium tags would still be weighted toward the folks who have the most points. The folks who are only interested in one specific tag wouldn't get the piece of mind of knowing, that a given number of max pointers would draw and be scrubbed, but those same guys would have the knowledge that they might draw that coveted tag a second time, rather than go to the back of the PPT line never to draw.

    Shoot holes in it if this is crazy!
    This is what I came up with for Nevadas bonus point system. http://www.eastmans.com/forum/showth...t-drawing-odds

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    No wonder those guys at the top haven't drawn they are just plain unlucky !!!!!!
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    One way to make it fair on a random drawing is split tags, half for random, half for true PP. The true PP requirement numbers offer insight to the FMV of the tags. The guys who random draw cannot enter a draw for the species in the entire state for the time equivalent to the highest pt total that drew in the true PP system. that would make things interesting.

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    I hope they leave the point system as it is. Tons of guys can chase those top units while allowing me to draw some darn good units with only 2-3.

    Say they went to a straight random draw. The top units are probably going to be 1 in 500 so the odds of drawing are still ridiculously bad. If somebody's built points for 20+ years, I say they deserve the tag when they finally draw it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OregonJim View Post
    No wonder those guys at the top haven't drawn they are just plain unlucky !!!!!!
    Its interesting to look at the points and who drew in NV. Some follow the apps points pretty well and some are all over the place. I was trying to figure my odds for drawing in NV this year and thats what I came up with, although when you compare it to the actual draw Im not sure it helped my situation much. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Musket Man View Post
    Its interesting to look at the points and who drew in NV. Some follow the apps points pretty well and some are all over the place. I was trying to figure my odds for drawing in NV this year and thats what I came up with, although when you compare it to the actual draw Im not sure it helped my situation much. lol
    Sorry!!!!
    I guess you were one of those guys

    They really would need to weight the system perhaps squaring the points or creating a split quota.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OregonJim View Post
    Sorry!!!!
    I guess you were one of those guys

    They really would need to weight the system perhaps squaring the points or creating a split quota.
    The points are squared. No Im not one of those guys, I only have 4 points. LOL

 

 

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