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    Quote Originally Posted by Luke Downing View Post
    What size pack would you suggest musket?
    Would have thought the 2800 would be big enough. But I have no clue and I'm here to learn bud


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    I have a military ILBE pack and I think it is 4500 and that size has worked well for me.
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    With Guy's info I should be packing about 20lbs less when for over nighters and about 10 lbs less on a day hunt. I cut 4-5 lbs off my pack alone earlier this year. I'm not planning any back pack hunts this year, but I do want to have the gear just in case I change my mind. This site give out great info on anything backpacking. Thanks everyone.

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    When I bivy hunt in the back counrtry for 3-4 days I like to keep my pack at as close to 35 lbs as I can get (not including my bow or camera gear). I force myself to use a smaller pack (the Eberlestock X2...1830 cu..4.8 lbs) otherwise inevitably I will end up bringing more gear than I need. I use the webbing on the outside of the pack to lash any extra gear I cannot fit in the pack otherwise.

    Pack - 4.8 lbs
    Tent, sleeping pad, sleeping bag - 6 lbs
    Clothes - 8 lbs
    Food (Mountain House, trail mix, etc) - 7 lbs
    Knives, game bags, GPS etc - 3 lbs
    Water - 4 lbs
    Cooking (stove, fuel) - 2 lbs

    Total weight : 34.8 lbs
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    My pack has reduced quite a bit over the past few years. I pack in for 7-10 days at a time and last year including My bow with arrows strapped on my pack while packing in was 58lbs. Since last year I have reduced the weight even more buy getting rid of some old gear and going with lighter gear. I am hoping to loose about 5 more lbs before season. I had lots of help and comments here on the forum last year getting my weight down. I paid closer attention last season on what I will change for this year. My day pack weight was around 25 lbs since I keep extra food and a few other things in case I decide to stay away from camp over night. I am revising the list below right now so its a ongoing process.

    Last years pack list.
    Pack & Stuff Sacks
    Pack =..............................93.00
    Extra straps =......................5.96
    Stove Stuff Sack =................0.71
    Small Dry Stuff Sack =..........1.45
    Large Dry Stuff Sack =..........2.10


    Sleeping
    Marmot Sleeping Bag =.......45.54
    Term-a-rest =......................23.48
    Tent =................................56.45

    Clothing
    Sitka Mountain Pants =..........24.19
    Sitka 90% Jacket =.............. .19.61
    Sitka Kelvin Insulated Vest =...15.18
    First Lite Marino Crew Tx2 =....11.19
    First Lite Marino Zip Tx1 =.......10.74
    First Lite Marino HCrew Tx1 =....7.64
    First Lite Allegheny Tx2 =........19.10
    MarinoWool Socks Linersx2 = ...2.07
    MarinoWool Socks Med x2 =.....2.24
    MarinoWoolSocks Heavy x2 =...5.43
    Marino Wool Boxers x2 =..........7.90
    Ball Cap =................................2.04
    Marino Wool Beanie Light =.......0.93
    Marino Wool Beanie Heavy =..... 2.57
    Suspenders .............................3.12
    Wool Mitten Gloves =................4.06
    Light Gloves =...........................2.10
    Rain Gear................................16.71
    Gaiters =..................................9.84

    Meals

    Stove =...................................11.30
    Lighter =...................................0.80
    spoon=.....................................0.35
    Paper Towels and Rag =.............1.20
    Stove Fuel =............................12.58
    Toilet Paper =............................3.00
    7 Day Food Pack =.................193.90
    1 qt Water =............................32.00
    All Purpose Soap =...................5.00
    Waterproof Matches =...............0.61

    Accessories
    Water Pump =........................12.75
    Water Tablets =........................1.06
    Binoculars =...........................32.16
    Range Finder/Case =................8.03
    Bugle =....................................6.30
    Cow Calls x2 =.........................2.50
    GPS Garmin 62s =...................6.20
    10 AA lithium Batteries =...........9.58
    Streamlight 14512 =..................5.60
    Duct Tape =..............................4.16
    550 Cord =................................6.90
    Bow Sling =...............................8.94
    Small Maglight =........................3.90
    Extra Bugle Reeds =..................1.19
    Buck Knife =..............................7.41
    All Purpose Tool =......................9.35
    Wyoming Saw =.......................15.39
    Water Bladder =.........................5.45
    Plastic Bags =............................6.45
    Game Bags =...........................21.15
    Wind dust=.................................0.87
    Map=.........................................2.84

    Emergency Kit =........................14.70
    Marking Tape =...........................0.39
    Knee Brace =..............................6.52
    Chap Stick =0.32

    Bow Arrows & release=................85.16


    Total weight =934.59oz =58.42lbs
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    Wow contender that's an awesome list that is the type of thing I'm looking for. Just to give me an idea on what kinds of gear is needed and weights
    Thanks a bunch


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    I was going to try to upload an Excel file I copied from another Internet site but I cannot attach it. I have uploaded picture on here so any one know how to do an Excel file or what I should do different to get the file to upload?

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    It will be basically what 25contender has but I left the items out if any one is interested let me know.

    I think having a list like 25contender has is very beneficial, and then having certain gear organized in smaller bags. Organization is key.

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    I am a firm believer in the lightweight movement. 10 years ago I used to haul 50lbs around for day hunting, I kid you not.

    Here is where I found most of my weight to get tacked on gear wise:

    1.Pack- Getting rid of the twelve pounder for a sub 6 set up makes a huge difference. Don’t nail me down to one pack as that probably won’t happen, there are three sitting in my office at the moment and I am betting a few more come through before summer ends.

    2.Shelter- All summer long I will use a floorless shelter with a carbon fiber pole. Some of the other staffers here at Eastmans’ may use some different options but the principles are the same, keep it light. Mike used a tarp for years and you can see that set up in his chapters on coyoting out.

    3.Clothing- I will spend the money on quality clothing because it weighs half of what the cheaper stuff does. I no longer am stuffing a spare hoody into the top of my pack just in case, my top end clothing performs the way that I expect from the beginning. I use a variety of clothing from Sitka, Kryptek, First Lite, and KUIU. It really is a conglomeration of items that do exactly what I expect it to.

    Learning to layer properly cut my weight down significantly. Merino base layers paired with lightweight clothing made a huge difference. My rain gear functions as a great outer insulator, as well as a soft shell.

    4.Packing- Stick by your list and don’t pack too soon. If you pack too soon you will talk yourself into stuffing things in your pack that you don’t need. Ounces make pounds, and that leads to heavy pack weights.

    5.Food- I have my food down to a science. I set out a gallon baggy for each day I will be gone and label it. Then I stuff the appropriate amount of food in each one. Every one of us consumes X number of calories per day. I try and add about 15% onto my normal consumption because I am burning more than normal at the higher elevations.

    6.Water- I bring a Nalgene and an MSR dromedary bag with me. The 10 liter bag stays empty until the last possible fill up point. On one hike this year I drank 4 liters on the way in, I just refilled my Nalgene every time I crossed a creek. At my last creek crossing I filled up the dromedary and only had to pack the heavy weight 800 feet rather than the full 4k that is involved in the climb.

    I will see if we can take some video of packing for the hunt with Guy this summer. Brandon does a lot as well, so I will see what we can come up with.

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    Its like a challenge I give myself these days. Five years ago I really didn't care what or how much I packed. Now its more like how light can I get and still be comfortable. Being lighter make a huge difference especially if you need to move camp a mile or so which I did three times on a two week trip last year. I am not going to give up certain thing but over the years you get a feel for what you really need, things you might need and then the things you never bring again. Then the category of what to bring but leave in the truck just in case. Last year was a eye opener for my and I made some big changes. This year I went to a bigger lighter tent BA Copperspur UL2 a lighter but larger pack and will be getting a new sleeping pad once I figure out which one I like. Food is a huge thing I worked on last year packing a days worth of food 2500-3000 calories into 1.75lb packs. Food can get very heavy. My wife sees my weighing everything and then shakes her head!!
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    Making the list is key. Weighing each pc and staring it down to convince yourself that it is the correct pc. Don't go so ultralight that comfort is compromised. I have actually gone to a heavier tent and pad because my sleep suffered so bad. You need to put all the gear through its trials before you get out in the woods and your stuck with something that doesnt work for you.

    I won't get into specifics, because I am right there with most of these other guys.
    I have a 3300 pack that is less than 4#. I take between 10 and 30L of drybags depending on the trip.
    32 lbs for a weekend trip.
    50 lbs for 9 day pack without weapon or spotter.

    The cost of lightweight gear is a pretty steep curve. Get the best gear you can that doesn't cost you days in the woods. Kick ass conditioning can make up for a few extra lbs on your back.

 

 

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