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    Very sad day. Called my brother make sure all was ok he is stationed at Ft Sam Houston as he frequents the Ft Hood Medical Center regularly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorado Cowboy View Post
    The really sad thing (in addition to the dead and injured) is that this was probably preventable. We have a broken system when it comes to background checks. He bought the handgun recently off post. As soon as he started the evaluation process and treatment for depression and possible brain injury, the Army should have notified the FBI (who does the background checks) to indicate his situation and keep him from passing the background check as he obviously lied on the background form he filled out.

    A really sad deal for sure.
    CC, I have to disagree. If everyone with PTSD was handled like that 1/2 of returning vets would fail the background check and not be able to buy a gun, including my self. It would also keep alot of vets from seeking help because they wouldnt be able to pass a background check or buy a gun once they did. There has been some talk about this and Im very concerned they will try to make everyone that has sought help for PTSD automatically fail a background check. Back ground checks dont do whole lot of good anyways. If someone like that really wants a gun they will get 1 weather they can pass a background check or not. Anyone that knows they wont pass a background check will get their gun another way, there not going to go through an FFL dealer. All background checks do is cause honest law abiding people problems like delaying me 4 times out of 5 so I have to make another 25 mile trip to my FFL to get my gun a few days later.
    "Now two flags fly above my land that really sum up how I fee. One is the colors that fly high and proud The red, the white, the blue. The other one's got a rattlesnake With a simple statement made "Don't tread on me" is what it says and I'll take that to my grave. Because this is me. I'm proud to be American and strong in my beliefs. And I've said it before but I'll say it again 'Cause my family's always fought and died to save this land. And a country boy is all I'll ever be."

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    PTSD is real. My friend, a viet vet has it bad, but thanks to the VA he is being treated. I returned from Viet Nam with some problems and was never treated for it. I feel lucky to be able to weather the storm. My viet friend thought the VA turned him down so he did nothing. A hunting partner brought him to visit from 130 miles away and I made sure he got help. Now he has all the symptoms of agent orange, too. Just saying I can see how a vet can get out of control, they need help and somehow the ball was dropped at Ft Hood

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retterath View Post
    Sad deal, just dont understand why people do this. Wish they would seek out help before even thinking of doing such a thing.
    He WAS being diagnosed is what they said on the tube. Seeing it's the Government, evidently they didn't do it quickly enough.
    P.T.S.D. they said, he was a Truck Driver for Crissakes.

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    Sad day all the way around..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by shootbrownelk View Post
    He WAS being diagnosed is what they said on the tube. Seeing it's the Government, evidently they didn't do it quickly enough.
    P.T.S.D. they said, he was a Truck Driver for Crissakes.
    I dont know what he actually did but transportation guys were targeted quite a bit over there. One of the most dangerous jobs really.
    "Now two flags fly above my land that really sum up how I fee. One is the colors that fly high and proud The red, the white, the blue. The other one's got a rattlesnake With a simple statement made "Don't tread on me" is what it says and I'll take that to my grave. Because this is me. I'm proud to be American and strong in my beliefs. And I've said it before but I'll say it again 'Cause my family's always fought and died to save this land. And a country boy is all I'll ever be."

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    A man once told me " for some people this world will never be right for them " maybe it applies , I don't know. When someone makes sense of these events let me know. I pray for everyone involved and their families.

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    on a side note, do you guys see all these commercials to donate and help these disabled veterans get help/care they need??

    We send these guys to war and then we don't take care of them when they get back??

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuskyMusky View Post
    on a side note, do you guys see all these commercials to donate and help these disabled veterans get help/care they need??

    We send these guys to war and then we don't take care of them when they get back??
    You may die before the VA gets anything done for you. I have been fighting claims for nearly 6 years now and they are still not resolved. The last guy that evaluated me nearly got his teeth knocked out for turning things I said around and calling me a liar. The VA hospital has done nothing to really help me and made me so mad at 1 point I didnt go back for 2 years. It is actually in my medical records that ''I felt like a cow being run through the auction" by 1 VA doctor. Vet center isnt any better. My councilor abruptly left in January due to terminal cancer and they didnt even call and tell me my appointment was canceled before i drove 65 miles to get there and have not even called to schedule me with someone else like they were supposed to. SO yes there are some serious problems with the VA system and getting vets the help they need.
    "Now two flags fly above my land that really sum up how I fee. One is the colors that fly high and proud The red, the white, the blue. The other one's got a rattlesnake With a simple statement made "Don't tread on me" is what it says and I'll take that to my grave. Because this is me. I'm proud to be American and strong in my beliefs. And I've said it before but I'll say it again 'Cause my family's always fought and died to save this land. And a country boy is all I'll ever be."

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    The Va is completely a battle....you against them. When I got out in 1965 I had to go to the VA to be "evaluated". They told me I had a service connected disability...rated at 0 disabled. I thought fine, at least I'm on record. 25 years later one of my engineers was a VN vet and he told me to go back at get another assessment. I did and it was 10% so I got some monthly benefit. Later my knee got worse and back I went, 3 different times....no change. I finally got a DAV rep to help me and we actually went to Federal Court and won. VA reassessed me again and upped it to 40% retroactive for 30 years. I actually had to write my local US Congressman to get them off their ass even after we won in court. Finally got a lump sum settlement and a monthly benefit.

    The only way you get the VA to settle is after you fight for everything you get. I thank the Disabled American Veterans (DAV) and am now a Life Member. Without them it would never have happened. The VA tries to wear you down so you just get frustrated and go away! Sad deal for sure.
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