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    75 gr hornady a-max at 3400fps and over 1900 ft lbs energy is not what I call a pop gun. With the parent case being a 300wsm she has broad shoulders. If we were talkin 223 rem I may see your point but we are not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Topgun 30-06 View Post
    I absolutely hate reading threads like this where people are talking about using "pop guns" (sarcasm intended) for animals that they were not intended for and then there is always at least one lame comment about "well if an arrow can kill, etc."!!! Please use enough gun for a clean, quick, humane kill and treat every animal with the respect it deserves!
    Hey Topgun, stop chasing antelope with your Red Rider BB gun!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musket Man View Post
    Hey Topgun, stop chasing antelope with your Red Rider BB gun!
    Mm I once went to the red Ryder rodeo over July 4 weekend in pagosa springs co. Quite an event it is.1998 was the year I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swampokie View Post
    Mm I once went to the red Ryder rodeo over July 4 weekend in pagosa springs co. Quite an event it is.1998 was the year I think.
    Is it a Junior Rodeo?
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    Lol! No its adult

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    Quote Originally Posted by swampokie View Post
    Lol! No its adult
    I was thinking Red Rider=BB gun=kids. lol
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    Apparently the red Ryder originated in pagosa.
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    I guess I never looked into the history on them. Killed alot of birds with mine though
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    So Topgun, you don't think a 223 WSSM would kill an antelope at 50 yards?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdan68 View Post
    So Topgun, you don't think a 223 WSSM would kill an antelope at 50 yards?

    Please refer to post #2 by Hilltop, as I agree with that post 100% and when I used the term "popgun" I guess you missed the "sarcasm intended" comment, LOL! Sure the heavier bullet intended for game bigger than the varmint bullets of lesser weight will kill an antelope, but why do people want to handicap themselves with these "popguns" (sarcasm again intended) when there are a ton of good calibers out there that are made for the job? Personally I use my .243 Sako with 100 grain Hornady BTSP handloads for antelope if the wind is not too bad on a given day. If it starts blowing to any real degree I go up to my Ruger heavy barreled 25-06 with 117 grain Hornady BTSP handloads. I'll put either of those up against any .223 WSSM you want to throw out there at any distance and will keep right on going out further, especially with the 25-06. Here is what Chuck Hawk has to say about them and just about every other article I've read on the .223 WSSM has the same comments.

    Chuck Hawks:

    The .223 WSSM factory load that Olin/Winchester recommends for hunting antelope, deer, and black bear drives a 64 grain Power Point bullet (SD .182) at an advertised muzzle velocity (MV) of 3600 fps and muzzle energy (ME) of 1841 ft. lbs. Clearly the primary limiting factors of this load as a deer cartridge are neither its energy nor its trajectory but rather its frontal area, weight, and sectional density.

    The Winchester Super-X .223 WSSM factory load with the 64 grain Power Point bullet is simply inadequate for shooting North American deer and antelope, regardless of the velocity at which it can be driven by any .22 caliber cartridge ever produced. It is even more inadequate for black bear, not to mention illegal in some jurisdictions.

    Now let's take a look at the Winchester figures for the .223 WSSM's varmint loads. There are two, a 55 grain Supreme Ballistic Tip bullet and a 55 grain Super-X Pointed Soft Point (PSP) bullet. Both are recommended for use on prairie dogs, woodchucks, and coyotes. These are sound recommendations; they are exactly the same animals that are humanely taken with a 55 grain bullet from a .22-250 or a .220 Swift.
    Last edited by Topgun 30-06; 05-16-2014 at 08:41 AM.

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