These packs are on sale on Kuiu's site; however, I have heard about issues with the pack fabric durability. The 2014 models are jumping from the current 160D cordura to 500D cordura with only a couple extra ounces difference. of course, the 2014s won't be on sale for a while, and having an extra $150-200 to spend on other stuff is never a bad thing. I'd really like to upgrade from my Eberlestock J107, if possible. That thing is one heavy beast compared to newer packs out there. Just looking for opinions if there are any out there.